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  1. #4771
    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
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    Cap'n Jack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibhas View Post
    T10 is one of those turns where you need an Army's Paeon/Goad to stay afloat unless you get unlucky with Wild Charges and the like, so no issue there. From what I remember of T10 around your iLvl, you're doing fine. Just don't die randomly like and idiot and you'll do well; keep aiming for that 440, but you could probably push a bit more if you got stuck in there.
    Thanks! I'm going to keep on pushing my DPS. I know I can do better when I pull my rotation properly. Until today, I've been using a slightly different rotation but I've switched to a higher parsing one now and still on the odd points switch to my old one without realizing :P
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  2. #4772
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Before CT: 4624+4630+4286+3990 = 17530 / 294.29 = 59.5670936831017 PPS

    Before DE: 4324+4680+4630+3897 = 17531 / 294.29 = 59.57049169186857 PPS

    Before ID: 4286+4380+4680+4184 = 17530 / 294.29 = 59.5670936831017 PPS

    So if you really care about 1 potency after like 5 minutes, or 0.00339800876687 PPS, use before DE.

    If you want more burst, use before CT
    the issue is that if you bfb before disembowel then you gotta pot after disembowel then you're delaying leg sweep, and you'll have xpot for ht aka 170 pot instead of the 220 pot disembowel
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  3. #4773
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    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1067791741 It's unlocked now for your viewing pleasure and yeah you are right, it does underestimate the expected damage by 1%. I assume the formula isn't as accurate at high levels of strength/WD.

    I guess that explains why my model is estimating NINs to do 594 DPS in BiS, yet that lucrezia guy is busting out 630dps in T13 lol. 594*1.1 = 653.4 bad math at 8am is bad math

    And yah Ricky, that's why I always use BFB Before DE.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 02-01-2015 at 09:59 PM.

  4. #4774
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    Sir Noxotic
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    2 Questions. For T12 is it a DPS loss to hold DFD to hit all 4 Bennus? I use it on Bennus #1 at the start of the fight, and it comes back up around Bennus #4, but if I hold it till we get to next phase so I can hit 4 Bennu with it, is it considered a loss or should I use it on cd?

    The other is similar as well, should I be holding Dragonfire Dive for the Son and Daughter or just use it on burst? Unfortunately it's a bit more difficult to run these things more than once a week for me so I can't test it out that well.
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  5. #4775
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    I guess that explains why my model is estimating NINs to do 594 DPS in BiS, yet that lucrezia guy is busting out 630dps in T13 lol. 594*1.1 = 653.4.
    Is that a merged or unmerged parse you saw a 630 dps? My best is 510 130 wep no nin, on monk. I feel like 630 is a little out of reach.
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  6. #4776
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    My parse was unmerged.
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  7. #4777
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    http://a.pomf.se/wsakcx.png

    So I assume merged.
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  8. #4778
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    So wait, I'm using B4B right after HT. Then Impulse+IR, Disembowel+Pot, Chaos+PS, Phlebo+Jump, True+Leg, Vorpal+LS, Full+DFD. This is assuming I've already used Spineshatter at the pull because I'm too lazy to walk. Aside from swapping IR and B4B, which I should have learned to do ages ago, is there anything I should swap?

    (back in topic, Lucrezia have the benefit of having servers right next to them, reducing immensely their latency and so on - so assuming what I said is not a fairy tale, I think that's part of why your assumptions are lower than their output.)
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    there's not much downtime in t10 that merged/unmerged would matter, unless you're setting the encounter culling at less than 6 seconds

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBcvSI0f_sU

    my opener (365 skillspeed)

    2nd bfb will be up right before a FT>phle, clipping by about.. 0.2-0.4s at 365 skillspeed. at lower skillspeeds you won't see the clipping, because you won't be late casting bfb for a 9th hit anyway.

    ir drops before ls+ft
    x-pot drops after ft
    9th skill in bfb if applicable is ft
    next bfb comes up before a FT, and then again for the 3rd one. 4th one will be up for a phlebotomize iirc
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    Last edited by Aiurily; 02-02-2015 at 02:20 AM.

  10. #4780
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    http://a.pomf.se/wsakcx.png

    So I assume merged.
    Thats not t13, thats t10(You said 13 begore lol). 630 in there is not out of reach.
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