Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Itseotle]

So which is it, do I lose really a lot of auto-attacks by not doing lock-on target or not? Cause I'm sure I don't notice any big differences between it when I tested it.
Of course I can switch anytime and just get used to one or the other, but would like to have a clear definite answer before that from all perspectives.

Its easy enough to test. Do a 4 min parse on a dummy, doing exactly what you do to max dps, get those positionals, pop all cds, ect. Then do another 4 min parse where you do everything like the first test except don't move at all. Afterwards, you can can check the number of auto attacks between the two parses.

[Dervy]

2. It's a poor excuse, but I mainly hold it off for the Full Thrust, where else could I use it once it's up from Cooldown?

Chaos Thrust I pointed out back in 2.45 that you can use Life Surge with Full Thrust, Chaos Thrust, Full thrust, Chaos Thrust etc, now that it's a 50s timer. It's a 0.5 PPS increase, which is like an additional 3-5 dps or something.

[Dunncan]

Alright, will do that from now on then, gotta get used to it first though, but yea you might've mentioned it, though I'm not always following the thread so I couldn't know and the guy who made the thread doesn't update the main page.

The guy won't come back, let it go. Dervy is our main theorycrafter now, and already promissed us to put a new thread as soon as 3.0 hits and we gether enought data.

That's the updates from 2015 :P

[SunnyHirose]

Anyway to get back to my original question. Lock-on or not to Lock-on? Big difference or No difference? I'd like to know different perspectives, because I still do auto-attacks even while facing my back to the target,
that's what I noticed at least.

You can test this by facing away, press 'A' to target the dummy, and press it again to enable auto-attacks. If you keep facing away, after a few seconds it will say "target out of range" instead of doing an auto-attack.

A lot of people say players on Legacy controls "miss" or "lose" autoattacks when they're not facing the right way at the right time, but this wording is misleading, and I'm never quite sure if people who say this understand a certain thing about AAs. The accurate term is "delay": any actual loss comes from accumulated delays. AAs are on their own cooldown timer, and the game will hold it for you until you face correctly (and you do have to maintain that for a short amount of time; it's not strictly instant). You can actually spend the time between AAs facing away, then turn the right way shortly before and still get it at the same time you'd get it if you'd faced the right way the entire time.

So, the goal for players who want to get in as many AAs as possible is to make sure potential AA delays are both infrequent and short. If you use Legacy controls, it means you have to put effort into it, but in any dummy practice session I've bothered to check on DRG, I've pretty much been able to divide the time elapsed by the weapon's "delay" stat and boom, I'm perfect *preens feathers*

[Noxotic]

I wrote a love letter to the Dreadwyrm Spear

Oh dear spear please come to me/
Away from Bahamut let me set you free//
Pierce things together while having a blast/
Record DPS while we're kicking some ass//
I don't want the relic, I want you, you see/
At the end of 13, a spiteful RNG//
Why do I seem to have an unlucky past/
Spear I need you please, but for me, alas//

STUPID LOOT SYSTEM JESUS CHRIST THANKS GAME.

[rickyguo]

Oh dear spear please come to me/
Away from Bahamut let me set you free//
Pierce things together while having a blast/
Record DPS while we're kicking some ass//
I don't want the relic, I want you, you see/
At the end of 13, a spiteful RNG//
Why do I seem to have an unlucky past/
Spear I need you please, but for me, alas//

[jehuty08]

So I'm beginning to suspect that my raid leaders ACT might be mis-calibrated or something because its showing me frequently breaking 610 with zodiac. Watching videos of past t11 and t12 clears, I would burst up to around 850 and then after the dust settled, I would be sitting around 600-630 until ADS/Benu phase started. I guess I just figured you guys with the dreadwyrm spear were hitting for like 640-670 at those points.

After seeing some of the numbers you guys are posting, well... Im good, but I dont think im THAT good.

[rickyguo]

it depends on dps on the clear

you'd lose dps on periods where you can't hit like after adds on t11 or during dives on t12

no drops again boys

[Daweism]

it depends on dps on the clear

you'd lose dps on periods where you can't hit like after adds on t11 or during dives on t12

no drops again boys

I am surprised at how well you handled it.

[Dervy]

Depends on your skillspeed. Personally for you, Chaos Thrust.