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  1. #5271
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    Lillianne Nelligan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    If you cannot get 9GDCs within a Blood for Blood, then the best place to use it is before ID in the opener. This should allow you to hit all of the 180+PPS thresholds. Also, the difference between hitting and not hitting 9 GDCs is around 4PPS on average. Not that much if I may say so.

    As for the relic, no clue. I'm currently grinding out as much money as I can and I'm going to go for that 4 acc meld.
    Yeah, I made testing with 0 SS and 8-9 ms ping, and bfb fall a millisecond before second FT. And since I'm almost BiS, I don't feel like adding SS to my gear, so I'll stick with my current opener:

    HT (bfb+LegSweep) > ID (PS + IR) > Dis (X pot) > CT (jump) > Phelbo (DFD) > TT (SSD) > VT (LS) > FT.

    This give me the best burst so far, and works ultra well and beat other openers I've tried so far. So I'm going to stick with it! Thanks mate.
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    Last edited by Spayd; 03-16-2015 at 11:30 AM. Reason: switched LS to Legsweep.

  2. #5272
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    Lumis Farron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spayd View Post
    Yeah, I made testing with 0 SS and 8-9 ms ping, and bfb fall a millisecond before second FT. And since I'm almost BiS, I don't feel like adding SS to my gear, so I'll stick with my current opener:

    HT (bfb+LS) > ID (PS + IR) > Dis (X pot) > CT (jump) > Phelbo (DFD) > TT (SSD) > VT (LS) > FT.

    This give me the best burst so far, and works ultra well and beat other openers I've tried so far. So I'm going to stick with it! Thanks mate.
    Does LS actually come cleanly off cd for the FT with this? o.0
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  3. #5273
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJKuro View Post
    Does LS actually come cleanly off cd for the FT with this? o.0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vRITeekhek

    Since i have 0 SS I alternate CT and FT, but yeah, everything comes perfectly on time when a perfect rotation. See for yourself, this is just a part of it since I didn't feel like going for a 4 minutes long recording.
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  4. #5274
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJKuro View Post
    Does LS actually come cleanly off cd for the FT with this? o.0
    I assume the first LS is a legsweep. It's smart how Spayd does it; there's an additional leg sweep there in a shorter time frame and one is still huffed by BFB... as long as he isn't clipping GDCs.

    And it should come off cleanly, just a tiny bit oGDC management by the second Life Surge fixes it.

    Also if anyone wants to try my new opener, it's:

    HT - (IR+PS) - ID - (X-Pot) - DI - (delayed BFB) - CT - (jump) - PH - (leg sweep) - TTT combo and weave my other jumps and Life Surge.
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  5. #5275
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    I assume the first LS is a legsweep. It's smart how Spayd does it; there's an additional leg sweep there in a shorter time frame and one is still huffed by BFB... as long as he isn't clipping GDCs.

    And it should come off cleanly, just a tiny bit oGDC management by the second Life Surge fixes it.

    Also if anyone wants to try my new opener, it's:

    HT - (IR+PS) - ID - (X-Pot) - DI - (delayed BFB) - CT - (jump) - PH - (leg sweep) - TTT combo and weave my other jumps and Life Surge.
    Yeah sorry for the LS confusion, first Ls is indeed Legsweep. Edited. I'll try your opener in a few and compare it to mine to tell you if its an improvement.

    EDIT: Also, what I like from my opener is that even if for the first FT there's a Life surge, for the next one where FT isn't life surged, Internal Release is still up there to give it a chance to crit. Small details that can make some difference.
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    Last edited by Spayd; 03-16-2015 at 12:08 PM.

  6. #5276
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    What should my dps look like at i113 with nexus weapon? http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q1JY Currently i do around 485-500 with party buff. It tends to dip below 500 unless that is normal. Thanks!
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  7. #5277
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    Perfectly normal. And I assume that's with a 3 minute parse, ye?
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  8. #5278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Perfectly normal. And I assume that's with a 3 minute parse, ye?
    Yes it is. Sorry, forgot to mention that. I guess i will work on my rotation more and see if i can improve. Thank you.
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  9. #5279
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    Samira Starlightzz
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    So as a new Dragoon, now level 46, I have been using the rotation in the OP, though not yet with every ability until 50, so subbing. Then just a bit ago I came across this video on Youtube with a different rotation saying it is superior to the one in this thread due to the Dragoon changes that came with 2.45. At 4:24 in the video he goes into the new rotation. I'm lost as to what rotation I should be using exactly for optimum dps, assuming level 50.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy3VGsv-3gM
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos View Post
    So as a new Dragoon, now level 46, I have been using the rotation in the OP, though not yet with every ability until 50, so subbing. Then just a bit ago I came across this video on Youtube with a different rotation saying it is superior to the one in this thread due to the Dragoon changes that came with 2.45. At 4:24 in the video he goes into the new rotation. I'm lost as to what rotation I should be using exactly for optimum dps, assuming level 50.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy3VGsv-3gM
    Well, the OP hasn't been updated in forever, because the poster has disappeared. The video you link is by Dervy (which is a fairly unique username, so I'm assuming no shenanigans), who's been volunteered to post a new OP when the expansion launches. Knowing nothing else about DRG, I'd say go with the video.
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