Wards full again

[Jennestia]

And people called me a troll when I said MW can't be fixed. No matter how much patchwork you do on this Frankenstein, it's still a rotten monster that nobody can deal with.

Best part is, they've yet to actually dedicate time to it for obvious reasons. A small fix here and there isn't on the scale of attention like the battle system is receiving.

Let people buy and sell items from the item search screen.

/fixed.

"NO WE NEED A PHYSICAL PLACE CALLED AUCTION HOUSE OTHERWISE ITS NO GOOD"

Also, this.

[Wolfie]

Let people buy and sell items from the item search screen.

/fixed.

"NO WE NEED A PHYSICAL PLACE CALLED AUCTION HOUSE OTHERWISE ITS NO GOOD"

Doesn't fix the full ward problem. Take your own sig's advice for once.

[Betelgeuzah]

Doesn't fix the full ward problem. Take your own sig's advice for once.

What's the point of keeping your retainer in the (correct) ward when the majority of buying and selling is handled separately?

The original concept of MW hasn't existed since the addition of item search (making it downright trollish to argue that a concept that hasn't existed for months can't be fixed. No shit sherlock). Expanding it to cover the tasks of an AH is the next step.

[Wolfie]

What's the point of keeping your retainer in the (correct) ward when the majority of buying and selling is handled separately?

The original concept of MW hasn't existed since the addition of item search. Expanding it to cover the tasks of an AH is the next step.

Because even if you spread out the retainers across multiple wards, there will be a point where ALL wards are full or the system is, again, too laggy. What was our limit before the server fixes? ~600 retainers? What's our limit now? Can this machine support retainers from 1000 players? 2000? 10,000? Somehow I doubt it. The limit for a menu/text based system is several orders of magnitude higher than this.

Keeping physical retainers incurs a huge, huge overhead for simple actions like item transactions and places a completely unnecessary strain on the machine. It makes the design awkward and unintuitive at best, and probably equally hard to develop further.

And there is absolutely no functionality that MW does now that can't be replicated in an infinitely more user-friendly menu/text based system.

[TheVedis]

Because even if you spread out the retainers across multiple wards, there will be a point where ALL wards are full or the system is, again, too laggy. What was our limit before the server fixes? ~600 retainers? What's our limit now? Can this machine support retainers from 1000 players? 2000? 10,000? Somehow I doubt it. The limit for a menu/text based system is several orders of magnitude higher than this.

Keeping physical retainers incurs a huge, huge overhead for simple actions like item transactions and places a completely unnecessary strain on the machine. It makes the design awkward and unintuitive at best, and probably equally hard to develop further.

And there is absolutely no functionality that MW does now that can't be replicated in an infinitely more user-friendly menu/text based system.

the limit to fill all the wards in a single city was closer to 6000 retainers actualy, not 600

[Wolfie]

the limit to fill all the wards in a single city was closer to 6000 retainers actualy, not 600

It was/is crashing with ~1000, so that hard limit is pointless.

[Betelgeuzah]

Because even if you spread out the retainers across multiple wards, there will be a point where ALL wards are full or the system is, again, too laggy. What was our limit before the server fixes? ~600 retainers? What's our limit now? Can this machine support retainers from 1000 players? 2000? 10,000? Somehow I doubt it. The limit for a menu/text based system is several orders of magnitude higher than this.

Again, why must all the retainers be physically there at all times if they aren't selling anything? They could still divide it somewhat to make certain items sold in there (kinda like bazaars in XI) but even still most retainers only need to be called out occasionally and you wouldn't even need to be in the ward to do so.

[Wolfie]

Again, why must all the retainers be physically there at all times if they aren't selling anything? They could still divide it somewhat to make certain items sold in there (kinda like bazaars in XI) but even still most retainers only need to be called out occasionally and you wouldn't even need to be in the ward to do so.

But what if they ARE selling everything? What if the system crashes when only 75% of the people on the server want to sell items? If you have a simple, easy to implement system that can handle the worst case scenario, why on earth would you implement a more complex system that can't handle the worst case scenario?

[TheVedis]

the best soultion to full wards

your retainer cant stay if it has nothing to sell...


they already mentioned checks and balances being implemented to fix the problem in the future

[Wolfie]

the best soultion to full wards

your retainer cant stay if it has nothing to sell...


they already mentioned checks and balances being implemented to fix the problem in the future

What happens if everyone's retainer is selling something?