Stoneskin II

[RaquelleAvarosa]

Main a Scholar, used to main a White Mage.
IMO, no, Scholars do not need that SSII.
Scholar's stoneskin shields for only 10%, succor can cover more.
I do not see any fight that requires a scholar to stoneskin + succor before the fight starts.

[Alkar]

Main a Scholar, used to main a White Mage.
IMO, no, Scholars do not need that SSII.
Scholar's stoneskin shields for only 10%, succor can cover more.
I do not see any fight that requires a scholar to stoneskin + succor before the fight starts.

Succor covers more only if it crits. Either way Stoneskin is the better choice before a fight because it lasts longer than Succor.

[RaquelleAvarosa]

Succor covers more only if it crits. Either way Stoneskin is the better choice before a fight because it lasts longer than Succor.

How long can you see your stoneskin last before everyone gets slapped by an AoE?
I don't know how much your healing potency is, but my succor covers for 600+ without crit. Most players are sitting at 6k+ HP as of now.

[Alkar]

How long can you see your stoneskin last before everyone gets slapped by an AoE?
I don't know how much your healing potency is, but my succor covers for 600+ without crit. Most players are sitting at 6k+ HP as of now.

597 healing potency and it's not even 500 without crit. And surely Stoneskin will get to the AoE, Succor likely drops before it even hits. And, again, they stack.

[SulwynCaliope]

Then you have a rubbish heal skill. My Succor recovers around 900-1k each time

I call MAJOR BS on this. I'm i116 with full heal gears and the only times I see succor hit 900-1k is when it's buffed with things like fey illumination and mantra. It normally only heals 500 non crit and 750 critted for me. And did you miss me and MANY OTHER scholars saying "SUCCOR SHIELDS DO NOT GET DOUBLED WHEN CRITTED".

[Lemuria]

I call MAJOR BS on this

Yeah, my bad. I was referring to Adlo, not Succor. Point is, it's still a stronger version of Stoneskin in the long run and heals at the same time. Not sure why people are complaining about not having Stoneskin when Scholar basically has a better tool in their arsenal.

How can you use "waste of MP" as an argument when Stoneskin II is only usable out of combat? o_O

Would you prefer the term, "waste of time"? "Waste of effort"? It's effect is negligible in the long run in either case, so casting it on the party isn't worthwhile. I only ever stoneskin the tank in parties on Scholar as anything else isn't worth it. Cheaper just to cast the heals.

[SulwynCaliope]

Yeah, my bad. I was referring to Adlo, not Succor. Point is, it's still a stronger version of Stoneskin in the long run and heals at the same time. Not sure why people are complaining about not having Stoneskin when Scholar basically has a better tool in their arsenal.

Except no scholar is going to adlo every member of their party one by one because by the time you get to the bottom of your 8 man party list, your first adlo has either already worn off or is mere seconds away from wearing off.

[Lemuria]

Except no scholar is going to adlo every member of their party one by one because by the time you get to the bottom of your 8 man party list, your first adlo has either already worn off or is mere seconds away from wearing off.

You're so right. And you know why? Because it's unnecessary. You only cast it on non-tanks when they can benefit from the healing bonus as well. So, do explain why we need a 10% HP stoneskin effect for a paltry 500hp when even Succor can provide that much, and be usable in-combat.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Would you prefer the term, "waste of time"? "Waste of effort"? It's effect is negligible in the long run in either case, so casting it on the party isn't worthwhile. I only ever stoneskin the tank in parties on Scholar as anything else isn't worth it. Cheaper just to cast the heals.

I would prefer any term that is correct in a given circumstance.

This QoL spell would only be useful whenever a WHM is not around in a dungeon / raid. That's all. Of course, if a WHM is present, HE is the one who is going to do SS, not che SCH - that is pretty obvious - so don't worry, no one wants to steal your precious "Stoneskinning role".