Stoneskin II

[TurnBased]

^well, the ideal would be Stoneskin+Succor...

[Rhysati]

So long as WHMs get to use Succor, fine! I mean...SCH already get to use Stoneskin as it is via cross-class afterall.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

So long as WHMs get to use Succor, fine! I mean...SCH already get to use Stoneskin as it is via cross-class afterall.

[Mirakell]

Ahh, why are people seeming to be against Scholars having a quality of life change as well as Whms?
Before pulls - even if there is two scholars - you usually cast stoneskin on everyone. Sure, it's only 10% for us, but ss + succor is a nice damage migration... it's only a quality of life change we're asking for.

People saying that whm's should have succor then are just not understanding what is being asked here.

[UlricCraft]

I gave up reading comments past page 6 because of shear volume of whining SCHs.
Though my faith in the community was restored when the "are you serious? :/" comments got ALL of the likes.

SSII has the long cast to stop shielding in-between pulls.
SSII has the high cost to reduce swiftcasting in-between pulls, forcing a trade between an extra Holy in a speedrun.
I think this skill is balanced.

I main both healers, and I thought this QoL implementation was moronic from day one.
PANDER US MORE!
SS the main tank and get your ass in gear.
2s faster than SSII, and saves my Swiftcast for first pull Holy/Cure II.

In raid content: Oh wow, I saved myself 1 Medica. If you're fretting over 300mp, you're not ready to clear that content anyway.

[DeadRiser]

Lol at the white mages that want succor. Are you dumb?

Having a quality of life feature for both that does not affect anything in combat would be great. I can't believe how horrible some of these white mages are. I play both and would welcome this. Selfish effing white mages.

[Lemuria]

I play both and would welcome this. Selfish effing white mages.

So do I, and realistically I would NEVER use a Stoneskin II on Scholar. It's a meaningless waste of MP. It's too expensive for its damage mitigation, and there's literally no content which requires you to stoneskin anyone except the tank, unless it's a raid in which case you want a WHM's stronger version anyway.

I think it's more selfish to covet a skill another job has and complain that you don't have it. What's next? Fairies for White Mage too?

[Remilia_Nightfall]

So do I, and realistically I would NEVER use a Stoneskin II on Scholar. It's a meaningless waste of MP. It's too expensive for its damage mitigation, and there's literally no content which requires you to stoneskin anyone except the tank, unless it's a raid in which case you want a WHM's stronger version anyway.

I think it's more selfish to covet a skill another job has and complain that you don't have it. What's next? Fairies for White Mage too?

How can you use "waste of MP" as an argument when Stoneskin II is only usable out of combat? o_O

It's a QoL improvement, period. All the WHM not wanting their so precious tool given to SCH are just salty because they would like to be the only healers in the game ever.

[Mirakell]

I think it's more selfish to covet a skill another job has and complain that you don't have it. What's next? Fairies for White Mage too?

Sure if all the fairies do is float around and look pretty.

We are asking for a Quality of Life change - the same that whm's got - for a skill that is cross class - that you will use when pugging and happen to get a scholar as your other healer!

Why are whm's seeming to think we're wanting all their skills @_@

[RaquelleAvarosa]

Lol at the white mages that want succor. Are you dumb?

Having a quality of life feature for both that does not affect anything in combat would be great. I can't believe how horrible some of these white mages are. I play both and would welcome this. Selfish effing white mages.

So scholars can ask for stoneskin II and white mages cannot ask for succor? Some bias argument you have there. They can make it a weaker succor that cannot be used in combat. Same thing isn't it?

And let just say they DO give SS2 to scholars.

Ideal situation for damage mitigation: 1 WHM + 1 SCH = Succor (with chances of crits) + 18% stoneskin on the entire pt.
2 SCH = Succor (with chances of having crits) + 10% stoneskin on the entire pt.
Then what about 2 WHM? only that 18% stoneskin on the entire pt. I seriously don't think that is fair to WHM