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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    As a SCH main I don't really mind not having Stoneskin II. WHM is already the "QoL" and easiest healer, so it kinda fits. Scholars don't need things made easy and boring.
    Thats why ALL the SCHs i know say they wouldn't play this job if they didnt have Cleric stance to allow em to DPS and thus not fall asleep because of boredom while Eos/Selene is doing everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    Thats why ALL the SCHs i know say they wouldn't play this job if they didnt have Cleric stance to allow em to DPS and thus not fall asleep because of boredom while Eos/Selene is doing everything.
    That is correct, dear Sir. Our fairies indeed do "everything", since for sure WHMs in raids tend to not be able to do much.

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    Zanon Reeves
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    They probably have other plans for scholar in the future which is probably better.

    It would be funny if you all got your stoneskin 2 and SE was like we were planning to give scholar something awesome but we decided to give them stoneskin 2 as requested and the other skill cancelled due to it taking a slot.
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    Whm's were given the skill as a quality of life change. It's true, you'll run most content with one whm and one scholar so theres no point - but when using DF (trails roulette) for example and there is two scholars - it'd just be nice to be able to pop up stoneskin 2.

    It's not game breaking - would just be a nice bonus :P
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    If SCH gets stoneskin II on top of already getting our normal stoneskin, then my WHM gets succor and adlo. Deal? No? Oh.
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    It is a big oversight just like the myriad this game has, considering the game has plenty of content where you can't decide your party composition. Guess it was too much for their spaghetti code to just bake the out of battle AoE into Stoneskin 1. They might fix it later in the 2.5 series if not by the expansion, by the time they make Rogue abilities cross class.
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    Sch need to run after tanks and dps and desperately try to stoneskin the whole party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres_Lonegrief View Post
    Sch need to run after tanks and dps and desperately try to stoneskin the whole party.
    This is still the case for WHMs as well.
    Because you know, apparently being immobile for 5.7sec for a SS2 is waaaaay too long.

    Since the patch is live, i ended up manually SSing everyone more than i got to cast a full SS2.

    The relic drops rush isnt really helping either.
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 12-11-2014 at 03:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUTS3R View Post
    This is still the case for WHMs as well.
    Because you know, apparently being immobile for 5.7sec for a SS2 is waaaaay too long.

    Since the patch is live, i ended up manually SSing everyone more than i got to cast a full SS2.

    The relic drops rush isnt really helping either.
    ^ This.
    I've ended up having to waste a SwiftCast to get SSII up on everyone at least once in a pugged group out of sheer annoyance. Luckily, most will wait for protect (rather than SS) so I've resorted to SSing and then protecting after (usually for Raids). You want Protect? You're going to have to wait or go without until I'm able to get it in. In which case, most of these are speed run and I have no time to sit and cast protect. And stupid to run off on big pulls without the buff to begin with.

    I'd say the Relic rush made things worse. I've had people run off without either one, before (and two WHMs, so no SCH aoe buffs. I would still have to manually SS everyone). Granted, it was just Ifrit HM, but still. My screen had barely loaded from black and they're half-way across the platform already. Buff-naked of anything.
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    Last edited by Saseal; 12-11-2014 at 03:53 AM.

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    I love the troll threads about WHM or SCH being piss easy, they both are if doing things properly.
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