DF withdrawl has become the new "Fatigue" system

[Fyrebrand]

It was put in place to stop the constant amount of queue trolling you'd see at endgame. Tanks purposefully entering and exiting queue constantly for CT and ST just to get people angry, and people trying to queue up for roulettes with friends and continually resetting when they didn't get the same queue. It was to stop both of these, it was never in place to lessen the queue times.

Sure, but there is a difference between someone who fails to click "Commence" in time and someone who clicks it, enters a dungeon, and then abandons. If they wanted to penalize people who abandoned a dungeon, then they should have just done that. What they have implemented does not target trolling tanks. It doesn't target people who just didn't like the dungeon/group they got. It is a blanket penalty for everyone, and therefore it targets no one. The only people affected by it are just those who have been in a queue for 30-60+ minutes and failed to click a button within a one-minute window, which I don't think it actually heinous or damaging behaviour. Penalizing them does not improve the game for anyone. It's a pretend solution to a real problem.

If you know that you are going to be away from the game for more than ten minutes (lesser for tanks and healers), then you shouldn't be queuing for a duty in the first place.

Ten minutes? Is that how long you think a DF queue is? For DPS, you can expect to be waiting for anywhere from half an hour to an hour, or more. I have had more than one occasion, leveling my NIN, where the queue exceeded 75 minutes. As ready as anyone feels when they initially queue up, they can not tell you that in 75 minutes they will definitely not have to go to the bathroom, or get an important phone call, or grab a snack, or let the dog out, or whatever.

If you were called off for something that takes a reasonable amount of time to do, open the DF window and remove yourself from the queue.

If I know I won't be able to play, then I will remove myself from the queue. But when you've been in a damn queue for over an hour, and all you want to do is grab a drink or something without it costing another effin' hour of waiting, you are not going to click Withdraw.

This also applies to your buddies that go AFK without any warning. They should be alerting you if they have to go do something, in which point you can either take yourself off the queue, or accept the fact that there is a chance that the queue may pop up while he was away.

That is a load of BS. If I queued with an FC mate, and after 40 mins to an hour he says "brb," I am not going to withdraw us from the queue on the off chance DF will pop in the next minute. And if you're claiming you would, that is BS too.

Realistically, I have not been penalized for withdrawing 3 times in a day. I don't think a lot of people do, but those who do are not guilty of anything aside from being a little disorganized or having bad luck. They did not do something bad, which needs punishment. They are not the problem. And the penalty is not going to change their behaviour anyway, because it's not something they intend to do in the first place.