So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Rieze_Xeero]

Of course there's a chance for casuals, a chance to get better and progress. These nerfs on the other hand are downright begging for things to simply get handed to you. They already have Crystal Tower raids and tomestone gear for casuals to catch up. The only 1% content hardcores get, you casuals even want that to vanish. Good job!

O wait there is Fcob right now that casual will not be able to play till... expansion!!! Wow you just want coil contents only to you guys... Yes you worked hard for it but man, there is fcob??? I really don't get it. If they changed it without a new endgame raid for the "elitist/raiders" I would agree with you on this statement but hey there is already fcob... I really don't get why you just guys want it to be exclusive to you all only. Sad to see this kind of community.

[Xensai]

O wait there is Fcob right now that casual will not be able to play till... expansion!!! Wow you just want coil contents only to you guys... Yes you worked hard for it but man, there is fcob??? I really don't get it. If they changed it without a new endgame raid for the "elitist/raiders" I would agree with you on this statement but hey there is already fcob... I really don't get why you just guys want it to be exclusive to you all only. Sad to see this kind of community.

We don't WANT it for just us We want more experienced players in the game nerfing content like this just allows people to skate by.

[Rieze_Xeero]

We don't WANT it for just us We want more experienced players in the game nerfing content like this just allows people to skate by.

Although I do agree that they should not change it that much that even a dumb player can just clear it. I still it to be challenge because you are right, it still is satisfying to beat a hard game. But hey this is an MMO the game will change eventually.

[Gralna]

Haha, whine all you want, nerfs are happening and if first coil nerfs are any indication, they are here to stay. So I'll just be laughing all the way to T9, thanks by the way for bashing your heads against second coil for 9 months, I'm sure those strategies will come in handy.

[Xensai]

Haha, whine all you want, nerfs are happening and if first coil nerfs are any indication, they are here to stay. So I'll just be laughing all the way to T9, thanks by the way for bashing your heads against second coil for 9 months, I'm sure those strategies will come in handy.

This Here is the reason why people who want to learn and want to do the so called "hard" content can't

[AdamFyi]

So I'll just be laughing all the way to T9

The adjustments alone look like they changed a lot, but the fact is, the changes are pretty minimal at best. You won't be laughing your way to T9, sadly, because you're going to still bash your heads on T8 which requires a crap ton of team coordination, especially with the enrage timer, Dreadnaughts, Defensive Maneuvers, Ballistic Missile, Allagan Field, Brainjack, and Homing Missile not being adjusted in the slightest. T6 still has the Vines, Briars, Blighted Bouquet (Still may cause massive damage), Devour, Rafflesia's damage stacks, Honeys, Slugs, and Rotten Stench going for it , so there's that. T7 obviously still has their add phases to boot which is pretty taxing on the healers, Fireballs from Melusine, Renauds being linked to one person if they hit it by accident, Venomous Tail, Voice and Shriek, and the enrage timer which can be easily reached if people keep getting petrified.

[SpookyGhost]

You won't be laughing your way to T9, sadly, because you're going to still bash your heads on T8 which requires a crap ton of team coordination

I don't disagree, T8 will still be challenging and it's probably the least touched turn in terms of difficulty, but just 2 things I wanted to point:

especially with the enrage timer

Echo.

Dreadnaughts

Echo.

[Mitracia]

I don't disagree, T8 will still be challenging and it's probably the least touched turn in terms of difficulty, but just 2 things I wanted to point:


Echo.


Echo.

10% is nothing.

[AdamFyi]

Echo.

Towers. The dreads and enrage timer are easily remedied by the Echo, and I concede to that, but if nobody can do the towers properly and they charge up to maximum at the same time, Atomic Ray will kill them all. This also includes the landmines if nobody pays attention to them because if even one of them is left up for too long, it will explode and kill the raid. :x

[SpookyGhost]

We don't WANT it for just us We want more experienced players in the game nerfing content like this just allows people to skate by.

I know this argument is going to be brought up a lot, so I'd just like to point out that T9 is untouched. T9, even with echo, will in no way be faceroll and if you can make it through T9 you'll be fine in T10, then T11, etc. etc. The main problem is that there is a decrease in difficulty going from T5 to T6, and that remains relatively steady until you reach T9 where the difficulty spikes up majorly. This is the same problem nerfed T1-4 had, it did not prepare people for T5. Nerfed T6-8 will also not prepare people for unnerfed T9.

So, there's still a brick wall in place for FCoB, as there was with SCoB. If you're worried about people getting carried through, that was a thing way before Echo.