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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    So Second Coil has been destroyed

    You can now ignore almost all the mechanics and still win. How is this fun? Enjoy your hollow victory with all the teeth pulled from the big baddies.

    At least T9 hasn't been nerfed into the ground (yet?).

    Edit:
    People are saying "go do savage", "go do FCoB", etc. Did savage and cleared T13 already. It's about the extremes of the nerfs. Echo itself is powerful enough. I happened to enjoy doing all of the fights and trying to do crazy things and push limits by flirting with death. That's gone now.

    Edit2:
    Verdict on T6: Complete tank and spank.
    Blighted only does 3~4k. Can ignore most mechanics as long as entire party doesn't get eaten, and even then still killable.

    Verdict on T7: Cornerstone mechanics that made the fight unique completely destroyed.
    Renaud auto attacks 500-700. You can ignore them completely and just let them get stoned by people running around like headless chickens. All you have to do is just deal with the adds cause those still hit as hard as before. Voice/shriek has been utterly trivialized.

    The designers of these fights must be drinking pretty heavily right now after seeing something they carefully built torn to shreds.

    Edit3:
    This implementation would solve many issues. Unfortunately, what we have now is storymode faceroll for T6/7. T8 got a lobotomy but can still kill you if you try to ignore everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    All this could have been avoided if they had implemented different difficulties right from the start, I think WoW does something similar though I don't really know the specifics, each with their own lockout.

    Easy/Story difficulty: echo +20-30% and current nerfs, no drops whatsoever, possibly exclude the last turn from this tier.
    Normal: no echo but current nerfs, only one chest per turn, possibly no gear enhancing items whatsoever.
    Hard: no echo, same mechanics as before the nerfs, same amount of drops as we have now.
    Savage: no echo, same mechanics as current Savage, possibly 3 chests per turn and/or one extra gear enhancing item.

    Maybe Heavensward could do something like this, and also maybe have more than one relevant piece of endgame content.
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    Last edited by Ellatrix; 11-19-2014 at 10:57 AM.

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    If you beat it already then who cares, move onto 3rd coil and stop going after people who are playing catchup still.
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    I dislike that they're forcing an easier mode onto new players that won't ever get to even experience the challenge. Yeah we have Savage coil, but that's not exactly a substitute.
    They could have made these changed and thrown it into a Story Mode version of second coil if they wanted people to be able to progress. No loot, all lore, and off to Final coil you go.
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    I will, thanks!
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    Those nerfs are even worse than first coil. Turn 7 was amazing and unique. Now it would be a complete joke and snooze fest. Good job SE, you continue to prove your incompetence with raids!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlewiss View Post
    If you beat it already then who cares, move onto 3rd coil and stop going after people who are playing catchup still.
    Cleared T13 already. I enjoyed SCoB though, quite a bit. I still have a few pieces left to farm, and now I get watered down fights of dumb.
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    Yeah because goddamn the people who actually want to try reach FCOB and the end game raid have never been nerfed before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri View Post
    Yeah because goddamn the people who actually want to try reach FCOB and the end game raid have never been nerfed before.
    If players can't clear SCoB they won't clear FCoB anyways, why move players into content they have no business being in? If someone can't clear Titan Hard Mode would you throw them into Titan EX? These changes just kick the can down the road and ensure more content will be nerfed because the players who will clear due to changes like this aren't able to clear the previous (easier, even before nerf) content anyways - so what chance will they have in even harder content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Cleared T13 already. I enjoyed SCoB though, quite a bit. I still have a few pieces left to farm, and now I get watered down fights of dumb.
    Correction, you still have savage coil that provides the exact same loot as regualr scob. so...yea, you get harder fights then scob prenerf for the loot you need...have fun and have a wonderful day
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    Player Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    If players can't clear SCoB they won't clear FCoB anyways, why move players into content they have no business being in? If someone can't clear Titan Hard Mode would you throw them into Titan EX?
    Bitching and moaning about the nerfs isn't going to reverse them. GTFover it.
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