So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Ellatrix]

You can now ignore almost all the mechanics and still win. How is this fun? Enjoy your hollow victory with all the teeth pulled from the big baddies.

At least T9 hasn't been nerfed into the ground (yet?).

Edit:
People are saying "go do savage", "go do FCoB", etc. Did savage and cleared T13 already. It's about the extremes of the nerfs. Echo itself is powerful enough. I happened to enjoy doing all of the fights and trying to do crazy things and push limits by flirting with death. That's gone now.

Edit2:
Verdict on T6: Complete tank and spank.
Blighted only does 3~4k. Can ignore most mechanics as long as entire party doesn't get eaten, and even then still killable.

Verdict on T7: Cornerstone mechanics that made the fight unique completely destroyed.
Renaud auto attacks 500-700. You can ignore them completely and just let them get stoned by people running around like headless chickens. All you have to do is just deal with the adds cause those still hit as hard as before. Voice/shriek has been utterly trivialized.

The designers of these fights must be drinking pretty heavily right now after seeing something they carefully built torn to shreds.

Edit3:
This implementation would solve many issues. Unfortunately, what we have now is storymode faceroll for T6/7. T8 got a lobotomy but can still kill you if you try to ignore everything.

All this could have been avoided if they had implemented different difficulties right from the start, I think WoW does something similar though I don't really know the specifics, each with their own lockout.

Easy/Story difficulty: echo +20-30% and current nerfs, no drops whatsoever, possibly exclude the last turn from this tier.
Normal: no echo but current nerfs, only one chest per turn, possibly no gear enhancing items whatsoever.
Hard: no echo, same mechanics as before the nerfs, same amount of drops as we have now.
Savage: no echo, same mechanics as current Savage, possibly 3 chests per turn and/or one extra gear enhancing item.

Maybe Heavensward could do something like this, and also maybe have more than one relevant piece of endgame content.

[jlewiss]

If you beat it already then who cares, move onto 3rd coil and stop going after people who are playing catchup still.

[Fynlar]

I will, thanks!

[Ellatrix]

If you beat it already then who cares, move onto 3rd coil and stop going after people who are playing catchup still.

Cleared T13 already. I enjoyed SCoB though, quite a bit. I still have a few pieces left to farm, and now I get watered down fights of dumb.

[LeeraSorlan]

Cleared T13 already. I enjoyed SCoB though, quite a bit. I still have a few pieces left to farm, and now I get watered down fights of dumb.

Correction, you still have savage coil that provides the exact same loot as regualr scob. so...yea, you get harder fights then scob prenerf for the loot you need...have fun and have a wonderful day

[Gralna]

Savage Second Coil of Bahamut

[Fuma]

Cleared T13 already. I enjoyed SCoB though, quite a bit. I still have a few pieces left to farm, and now I get watered down fights of dumb.

Correction, you still have savage coil that provides the exact same loot as regualr scob. so...yea, you get harder fights then scob prenerf for the loot you need...have fun and have a wonderful day

THIS, so much this. The original poster is just bitching because now they can't feel as elite as more casual players. Get over it, it'll be months before others come close to clearing FCoB, hang on to that epeen for awhile before moving onto the next endgame chunk of content.

[Coatl]

Cleared T13 already. I enjoyed SCoB though, quite a bit. I still have a few pieces left to farm, and now I get watered down fights of dumb.

Meh. You most likely have dedicated people who could one-shot T7 no problem. In which case the fight isn't hard at all anyway. I have pieces to farm from turn 7-8 but I don't want to waste static time that we could be spent finalizing T9. Nowadays I pug T6-8, and the only difficulty in that for me now is trying to not pull all my hairs.

I'll say it this way. T6-8 are pointless. You don't even need them to advance to T10. They are now like my solo grind like atma farming lol. I mean I'm sorry to the new guys , they might not get the same feeling of accomplishment for beating T6-8 as some others did, but if they're not too sad about it then I won't lose any sleep over it either.

[Snugglebutt]

If you beat it already then who cares, move onto 3rd coil and stop going after people who are playing catchup still.

She is a clear seller, something she has admitted to being in her own words on these forums. When take that into consideration it becomes apparent why she might hate this move by SE as it will potentially damage her profits made from selling clears on this content. The people actually against this are for the most part people who's egos depend on treating others like something they step on or they might lose some profits from selling clears on this content. Those people still have final coils and savage mode untouched, that is the newer content meant to challenge them and not this old content in second coil.

[Taika]

The people actually against this are for the most part people who's egos depend on treating others like something they step on or they might lose some profits from selling clears on this content.

This is a load of bull. People who I know are against these nerfs, including myself, appreciate the value of clearing these fights unnerfed and don't want to take that chance away from people who don't happen to have as much time for the game, or a static, or whatever. Progressing slower than the top or even medium speed groups does not mean you're an incompetent player who needs all central mechanics removed or nerfed to be able to clear content. In addition, nerfs only do a disservice because they remove the valuable learning experiences these turns offered, the experiences that help the people who've been able to clear them to make progress in the following turns.

Edit: Me or my FC never have and never will sell runs. We organise learning groups instead.