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  1. #261
    Player
    HeavenlyArmed's Avatar
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    Nov 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    C'thuuko Tohka
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    But this is a gear issue, not a job issue.
    It's a job issue because it only applies to the gear which is specific to that job.
    (3)

  2. #262
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    rickyguo's Avatar
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    Character
    Yan Dere
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Natida View Post
    I still don't believe DRGs are as shafted as people are making it out to be.
    Now, utility is definitely a legitimate concern. Although I have no constructive feedback in providing a solution to that.
    (Have a bard? Doesn't hurt to bring a DRG.)
    Well I mean, it hurts, because you could have another melee that brings more.

    It's not the dps, which is 40~ according to your example. It's the lack of dps combined with the lack of utility.

    If you do less damage, then you must bring something to the party.

    If monk did less damage than dragoon, people would still take them for dragonkick int debuff and traited mantra. The current issue is that there's no reason to bring a dragoon. You do less damage, you do not bring any utility as disembowel is a straight dps buff and the 6-7% increase for a single bard doesn't catch you up to ninja or monk. You take more damage. You lose more dps over mechanics forcing you to miss positionals. You even use more tp.

    You mentioned that dragoon was supposed to be the burst class but burst is usually not that relevant in fights and even so bard, summoner, and even perhaps ninja with +10% for the entire party during those 10 seconds all out burst dragoon.
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  3. #263
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    Tywnnvlad's Avatar
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    Character
    Tywnn Vlad
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 60
    This is what i completely feel right now, Less damage than MNK and NIN and less utility than NIN..
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  4. #264
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    Aeromat's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aeryn Sol
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    DRG buffs inc. on jap. forums.
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  5. #265
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    Aussir's Avatar
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    Character
    T'za Hibur
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeromat View Post
    DRG buffs inc. on jap. forums.
    About time too.

    I hope they get rid of at least half the "please stand here or be arsed" so called "buffs" and instead place a % of damage being permanent like Rogue/Ninja. Dragoons are supposed to have some of the most powerful DPS attacks and in this game they're more like a wet noodle...
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  6. #266
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    abzoluut's Avatar
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    Character
    Abzoluut Abzoluut
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeromat View Post
    DRG buffs inc. on jap. forums.
    Well, they only say that they appreciate the "feedback" and they will look into it. We need to wait a little longer for an update.

    Let's hope it will be for 2.5 at least..
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  7. #267
    Player
    Aeromat's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aeryn Sol
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    Well, they only say that they appreciate the "feedback" and they will look into it. We need to wait a little longer for an update.

    Let's hope it will be for 2.5 at least..
    who cares, at least they're getting up and doing something.
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    Last edited by Aeromat; 11-12-2014 at 08:25 PM.

  8. #268
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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Character
    Reimu Hakurei
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Yeah, technically it says that "Buffing process is underway", but that's how Japanese say things.

    Still, they recognized the issue so all is good.
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  9. #269
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    LordLonghammer's Avatar
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    Bastok
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    Character
    Lord Longhammer
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    The whole magic damage argument has been going on for a long time, I am neutral on it, I do not think it is a necessary change, dragoons aren't just falling over to raid damage unless they were not topped off which is either a healer issue or the dragoon is taking extra damage from other sources than the magic damage.
    Please any dragoon on T12 talk to this man about a little thing called Flame's of Rebirth. (since you don't know flames of rebirth is a raid wide Magic AoE that the boss does that gets stronger every time it ticks off, around the 10th stack my Dragoon could no longer B4B, 12 Stacks I needed personal adlo, 14stacks unable to be helped and the rest of the party is alive and kicking)

    The way around this by the way is to get i90 crafted jewelry melded with Vit to make our dps even lower.
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  10. #270
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    Seoki's Avatar
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    Character
    Swift Slaughter
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    They're working on the buffs currently and are already considering our own discussions. They said please wait a little longer (please look forward to it)

    It's coming guys and we did it; congrats to everyone and finally we can put this class imbalance behind us.

    (inb4 30% damage from Heavy Thrust and DRGs become undisputed GOAT)
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