The cycle of disbanding that keep casuals from doing content

[Aana]

Empathy or no the information has been reiterated. There is also a fine line between "asking to lend a hand if you can" (which tons of people stated in this very thread that they already do anyway) and the expectation that people help you on principle. A line that has been jumped back and forth over repeatedly whenever it's convenient.

"We are asking that people do NOT go out of their way to deliberately make things harder."
Who's deliberately making things harder? That 1 post from like 10 pages ago that says to come buy his runs? Who exactly is deliberately making newbies life harder?

It doesn't change the fact that every single successful raider to ever walk the earth was a newbie once and found a way via the tried and true conventional methods described ad nauseum on this forum. Why is telling others to do the same bad? We aren't telling people to do things we ourselves haven't done, yet this is not a satisfactory answer. I do not understand why this isn't good enough when it has been for every successful endgame player as long as MMOs have existed.

[NyarukoW]

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"We are asking that people do NOT go out of their way to deliberately make things harder."
Who's deliberately making things harder? That 1 post from like 10 pages ago that says to come buy his runs? Who exactly is deliberately making newbies life harder?
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There shouldn't even be a single shameless clear seller that come to forum to taunt others. But the fact remains, while the learning party get stuck waiting on the PF, there is obviously clear sellers with more than enough time sitting and waiting on the PF advertising their clear sell. They certainly can help and they certainly will not. That is the most obvious case. But you have people asking the "no newbies wanted" checkbox for the DF and PF. Thankfully SE is smart enough not to fall for that trap. And then there is the endless verbal abuse hurled at the newer players and newbies. All of this is done deliberately, because by default they can do nothing, but they choose to do even less than nothing.

.. broadly generalizing ALL raiders as clear sellers ...

I do NOT equate raiders as clear sellers ever. You can search this thread or any other and see that I've always been very clear on that. Yet the clear sellers come here and muddle the discussion and pretend to wear the wool of the raiders. I've got nothing against the raiders, only those want to play devil's advocate for the clear sellers, and those that promote an attitude indifference, apathy, or being deliberately dismissive of the problem the OP is presenting.