The cycle of disbanding that keep casuals from doing content

[Sessurea]

Didn't read thread but I made a LS where I inved more or less people who wanna raid and get clears but cba with a static. It's working out well tbh.

[Ghishlain]

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Glad to hear your group is going well I hope for its continued success~

Again, my point was less about the "why nobody joins my learning group" and more about "why people join a learning group and leave because it wasn't a farm?"

In my opinion, I feel this is in part because the bulk of the game is tuned for a much more casual front. Once players are given the stonewall known as Coil, they give up before they seriously try. Many dungeon and storyline encounters in this game are designed with a casual audience in mind, and can be completed within three wipes even if completed blind, normally.

When people try to apply that same mentality to high tier content such as Coil (and to an extent, EX Primals), they're gonna get sorely disappointed. Unfortunately for us, there is little you can do to fix that kind of mentality. It's just something those players will have to adjust themselves. Some will adapt, others will not - you just want to keep those that are willing to learn close so all of you can continue to grow as players.

What you can do on that front is to just encourage people to keep trying, and know when to cut off the current spree of wipes to prevent morale from hitting rock bottom too hard. A fresh mind combined with the experience garnered from the night before can make the run progress in leaps in bounds versus pounding your head into the content over and over for hours upon end.

[Sessurea]

Again, my point was less about the "why nobody joins my learning group" and more about "why people join a learning group and leave because it wasn't a farm?"

The amount of idiots who joined our coil learning/going for kill groups this week was astounding. get this, the PF was worded as follows " T8. Going for Kill. Have full exp. " Guy no 20 joins: "farm?" We just stopped being civil and just insta kicked them. Reading stronk it seems.