Things that need to change for the better

[Thanos]

The update was awesome, but it had some severe bad sides and a few other things that need tweaking.

1) Cure MP costs. They are much too high and before anyone says "But 11's were high!" yeah, but a cure 3 wasn't 135MP

2) Raises need to be on separate timers. What's the point of having 4 different types of raises, as a CON, if we can only use 2?

3) Stats need enhancing. Aside from VIT and MND, they do next to nothing.

4) Gear damage from death needs to be abolished or reduced. Every dungeon run, I come out with at least 3 pieces of broken gear. This is unacceptable considering people want close to 10k to repair something...

5) the r45 dungeon needs a slight nerf. "CRY MOAR!" no seriously, the ogre opens up with AoE spam and the mages are usually dead in the first 30 seconds of the fight which leads to #6. Also, fix it so that if you wipe and have to return, that the mobs don't pop until you're team is inside the room. It is VERY hard to recover from a wipe on that fight as you will probably wipe again before your team is back into the fight (Stupid ghosts..)

6) Enmity needs to be fixed. The current system is severely flawed. A GLA used 3 vokes and a couple of WS on a mob, I cure 3'd once...mob turned around and bam, 1 shot.

Stop crying please. None of these points are valid. Enmity is fine the way it is.. Just cause u dont know how to hate manage as a mage is no ones fault. I dont have that issue.

Dungeons need not to be nerfed at all. You need to strategize. Its not hard at all to recover after a wipe when u run back...

Gear damage is fine.. get crafting.. cost less

MP cost is fine.. learntoMPmanage.com coordinate with other mages in the party

[Santrale]

Stop crying please. None of these points are valid. Enmity is fine the way it is.. Just cause u dont know how to hate manage as a mage is no ones fault. I dont have that issue.

Dungeons need not to be nerfed at all. You need to strategize. Its not hard at all to recover after a wipe when u run back...

Gear damage is fine.. get crafting.. cost less

MP cost is fine.. learntoMPmanage.com coordinate with other mages in the party

"Get crafting" What if you prefer adventuring with combat, and don't enjoy crafting? Why should anyone have to do something they hate to enjoy the things in the game they want to? Sounds like a wonderful time vampire to me. Then again you probably love the masochistic grind, and the idea of doing a bunch of things you're not interested in just to be efficient in what you are interested in. Do you also friendlist people just because they have jobs that may help you in something, and not because you actually enjoyed playing with the person? I mean that instance stuff is fine how it is for the hard core people that enjoy never getting off a game or the real world outside. But they shouldn't make things like gear wear and tear so ridiculous to fix without grinding on a craft for a good long while, or without kissing up to a crafter, so they can use them for their skills to repair when ever they need. Keep all casual play equally beneficial to hard core play. Including rewards SP gear whatever... I mean yeah it's great to have an awesome piece of gear. But why should people who don't have to leave the house get to rub others noses in the dirt because they have jobs or a life in the real world. Then again I guess people have to have some place where they can act superior, even if it's just digital items.

[Thanos]

"Get crafting" What if you prefer adventuring with combat, and don't enjoy crafting? Why should anyone have to do something they hate to enjoy the things in the game they want to? Sounds like a wonderful time vampire to me. Then again you probably love the masochistic grind, and the idea of doing a bunch of things you're not interested in just to be efficient in what you are interested in. Do you also friendlist people just because they have jobs that may help you in something, and not because you actually enjoyed playing with the person? I mean that instance stuff is fine how it is for the hard core people that enjoy never getting off a game or the real world outside. But they shouldn't make things like gear wear and tear so ridiculous to fix without grinding on a craft for a good long while, or without kissing up to a crafter, so they can use them for their skills to repair when ever they need. Keep all casual play equally beneficial to hard core play. Including rewards SP gear whatever... I mean yeah it's great to have an awesome piece of gear. But why should people who don't have to leave the house get to rub others noses in the dirt because they have jobs or a life in the real world. Then again I guess people have to have some place where they can act superior, even if it's just digital items.

When I choose to do something I will put 100% into it.. or else why bother? I chose to play this game and I will endure the changes that SE makes. I will learn the new system and adapt to it and learn a better way to play with it.

No one is forcing you to do anything. You dont want to craft then dont craft.. the end result is you having to always look for repairs and continue to complain. I guess you will never be happy.

I dont get why ppl like you seem to always find things to complain about.. why are u still playing?

[Santrale]

When I choose to do something I will put 100% into it.. or else why bother? I chose to play this game and I will endure the changes that SE makes. I will learn the new system and adapt to it and learn a better way to play with it.

No one is forcing you to do anything. You dont want to craft then dont craft.. the end result is you having to always look for repairs and continue to complain. I guess you will never be happy.

I dont get why ppl like you seem to always find things to complain about.. why are u still playing?

Why? Cause I do like MMORPGs it's nice to play with other gamers cause I WANT to not NEED to. The difference meaning I want their company and like the person, as opposed to needing them weather I give a care about them or not. 100% into anything you do, eh? I hope it doesn't including getting a job, doing school or actually being worth while what so ever in the real world... cause if SE continues to make casual play less beneficial you're not doing that. I guess it's people like you that say "Screw having a life, I have this MMORPG." Well honey when the servers go down, and you've spent ten or so years giving 100% of your all because no game will go forever.. what will you have to show for it? Old stories of the game adventures that really no one other than people who played it are gonna care about? I like MMORPGs, but no I don't think it's a life style you should put 100% of your efforts into, it's for fun not a job? Do you get paid for this? Does it put food on your table? Maybe if you sold gil in it to feed yourself I could have maybe a bit more respect. It'd explain why you're happy with reduced gil rewards for leves and such. I mean gil sellers can't sell a product when there is no demand cause it's easy to get, right? Oh... maybe you should pursue this career, your slogan can be "Show you care! Buy Gil so a 30 year old virgin can eat!" Yeah I know that was immature of me but hey, how mature is saying you put 100% of your efforts into something that's supposed to be fun, not work.

[Thanos]

Why? Cause I do like MMORPGs it's nice to play with other gamers cause I WANT to not NEED to. The difference meaning I want their company and like the person, as opposed to needing them weather I give a care about them or not. 100% into anything you do, eh? I hope it doesn't including getting a job, doing school or actually being worth while what so ever in the real world... cause if SE continues to make casual play less beneficial you're not doing that. I guess it's people like you that say "Screw having a life, I have this MMORPG." Well honey when the servers go down, and you've spent ten or so years giving 100% of your all because no game will go forever.. what will you have to show for it? Old stories of the game adventures that really no one other than people who played it are gonna care about? I like MMORPGs, but no I don't think it's a life style you should put 100% of your efforts into, it's for fun not a job? Do you get paid for this? Does it put food on your table? Maybe if you sold gil in it to feed yourself I could have maybe a bit more respect. It'd explain why you're happy with reduced gil rewards for leves and such. I mean gil sellers can't sell a product when there is no demand cause it's easy to get, right? Oh... maybe you should pursue this career, your slogan can be "Show you care! Buy Gil so a 30 year old virgin can eat!" Yeah I know that was immature of me but hey, how mature is saying you put 100% of your efforts into something that's supposed to be fun, not work.

hold on... giving 100% means i sit here playing all day? sorry thats not the case

I will put 100% effort into learning the game mechanics, into doing everything the game has to offer. If it takes me a week or a year to get something i will play the game for what it is instead of sitting here crying like you are.

oh newflash everything in this world requires effort.. even fun things.. oh yea i forgot... ur lazy

[Santrale]

hold on... giving 100% means i sit here playing all day? sorry thats not the case

I will put 100% effort into learning the game mechanics, into doing everything the game has to offer. If it takes me a week or a year to get something i will play the game for what it is instead of sitting here crying like you are.

oh newflash everything in this world requires effort.. even fun things.. oh yea i forgot... ur lazy

When you learn of these mechanics and figure them all out. Then they'll present items and gear you will need to bring out the most in the system, hopefully it won't be like XI where you spend 6 months or possibly years sometimes for a piece of needed gear so your class can be stronger as you play with these mechanics... Lazy because I am a shut in, or lazy because I don't like putting that much effort into something that is supposed to be for leisure and fun. You already put effort to play, when you work and bring home a check to pay to play the game in the first place (when they start charging.) And being lazy for being a shut in, there are reasons I can't leave my home easily. But when my man and I want to go to a movie and he makes it able for me to go do something outside the house, I'd like to do so without coming back to the game only to hear a bunch of elitists talk about how it was a "Once in a lifetime opportunity missed" cause I wasn't there for a boss fight or something. Once in a life time opportunities in a game? Really!? if you think you need those to be happy maybe you should see a shrink. I can't understand why hardcore players want casual ones to just be left in the dust. Answer how you all benefit from this? It'd be an easy solution that wouldn't interfere with your play at all, make leves, and quests give more sp, gear rewards (on par with the party ones) and gil... so they can keep up with the hardcore players, then in the EG we can all play together and be on even ground. Is it that important that you get so much more for having more time to play than another? If you're playing to have fun and nothing else, what is the significance of wanting things to hurt the casual players progression?

[Dubont]

Stop crying please. None of these points are valid. Enmity is fine the way it is.. Just cause u dont know how to hate manage as a mage is no ones fault. I dont have that issue.

Dungeons need not to be nerfed at all. You need to strategize. Its not hard at all to recover after a wipe when u run back...

Gear damage is fine.. get crafting.. cost less

MP cost is fine.. learntoMPmanage.com coordinate with other mages in the party

Enmity is obviously not fine when provoke doesn't do what provoke is supposed to do. Manage hate? Ok. Went in to the dungeon last night. Waited 30 seconds for the tank to establish hate. I cast a cure 1. Ogre turned to me. Hate manage? yeah...fix enmity.

We actually got a strat worked out and I realized that the reason we kept dying so early...is because people wouldn't move into position fast enough, but getting back in after a wipe is still hard and almost near impossible as SOMEONE will die 90% of the time.

Gear damage, itself, is fine, but having to pump out almost 50k every we run the dungeon is not fine.

MP cost is not fine. Without 3 mages, the chances of running out MP are extremely high. I know how to manage MP as we've done the dungeon 10 times with only 2 mages (1 con, 1 thm) and the MP management was decent, but the fact that I have to cure, press f, cure, press f, cure, press f just to keep a solid amount of MP is ridiculous. This game probably has the highest MP costs of ANY game out there right now. Either lower the MP cost (just by a bit..maybe lower it by 10%) or increase the potency of the cures to accommodate for the MP cost.

None of my points are valid? Ok, stats are still broken and raises all share the same timer so there's no point in having anything other than R2 and Rebirth...so..why have the ability to use them, if we can't use them? Point is valid.

[Thanos]

Enmity is obviously not fine when provoke doesn't do what provoke is supposed to do. Manage hate? Ok. Went in to the dungeon last night. Waited 30 seconds for the tank to establish hate. I cast a cure 1. Ogre turned to me. Hate manage? yeah...fix enmity.

We actually got a strat worked out and I realized that the reason we kept dying so early...is because people wouldn't move into position fast enough, but getting back in after a wipe is still hard and almost near impossible as SOMEONE will die 90% of the time.

Gear damage, itself, is fine, but having to pump out almost 50k every we run the dungeon is not fine.

MP cost is not fine. Without 3 mages, the chances of running out MP are extremely high. I know how to manage MP as we've done the dungeon 10 times with only 2 mages (1 con, 1 thm) and the MP management was decent, but the fact that I have to cure, press f, cure, press f, cure, press f just to keep a solid amount of MP is ridiculous. This game probably has the highest MP costs of ANY game out there right now. Either lower the MP cost (just by a bit..maybe lower it by 10%) or increase the potency of the cures to accommodate for the MP cost.

None of my points are valid? Ok, stats are still broken and raises all share the same timer so there's no point in having anything other than R2 and Rebirth...so..why have the ability to use them, if we can't use them? Point is valid.

awwwww pookie! i feel so bad for you! you actually have to mage now! poor you!

What fun was it to spam aoe cures all day long? its boring.. this is much more challenging no? its fun? go play something else if u want something in perma easy mode

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[Dubont]

awwwww pookie! i feel so bad for you! you actually have to mage now! poor you!

What fun was it to spam aoe cures all day long? its boring.. this is much more challenging no? its fun? go play something else if u want something in perma easy mode

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funny that you say that considering how, until this patch, I was never a healer at all. I would toss out a cure once or twice if the THM was down on mana, but any other time, I was a full time blm con. You want to talk about easy mode to a player that played FFXI for 7 years and solo/duod blm all the way to 75? yeah ok, bro. I'm not happy that CON is the new whm especially since I am a terrible healer. ZOMG! HE SAID HE IS BAD! Yes, I admitted that I'm a terrible healer and the only game that I've ever mained healer in was PWI, but the point still remains that the mana costs for the cures in this "casual friendly" game are still much higher than any other game and they need to be lowered. Also, sir, I would like for you to actually comment on my other points instead of trying to belittle me to make yourself feel better about your life.

[SuzakuCMX]

funny that you say that considering how, until this patch, I was never a healer at all. I would toss out a cure once or twice if the THM was down on mana, but any other time, I was a full time blm con. You want to talk about easy mode to a player that played FFXI for 7 years and solo/duod blm all the way to 75? yeah ok, bro. I'm not happy that CON is the new whm especially since I am a terrible healer. ZOMG! HE SAID HE IS BAD! Yes, I admitted that I'm a terrible healer and the only game that I've ever mained healer in was PWI, but the point still remains that the mana costs for the cures in this "casual friendly" game are still much higher than any other game and they need to be lowered. Also, sir, I would like for you to actually comment on my other points instead of trying to belittle me to make yourself feel better about your life.

So you have no idea what you're doing when you're trying to heal and then complain about MP costs?