Things that need to change for the better

[Dubont]

Dubont you and your group just suck. Mp management and enmity is fine i agree with a small tweak in helping gld's maintain hate but our shell kills ogre everytime we recently 6 manned it and have killed batraal its you not the mechanics of the game

read some of my recent posts before commenting instead of just reading the OP. kthx.

[Enrei]

1) Cure MP costs. They are much too high and before anyone says "But 11's were high!" yeah, but a cure 3 wasn't 135MP

Conjurer has had an ability that lowers MP costs by 50%, and another ability which replenishes MP. It isn't hard to use them.

[Arterius]

Went through this thread to see if anyone had mentioned it and couldnt find it amongst the rants. If you're having a few Emnity issues try getting your healers and DD to use the Nerve Drops we found they worked a treat and are very easily made by a mid range ALC.

[Misha]

Conjurer has had an ability that lowers MP costs by 50%, and another ability which replenishes MP. It isn't hard to use them.

People don't realize they have other abilities aside from cure. You even have hate shedding abilities or less hate gain abilities at their disposal + so many defensive moves for yourself and party to make it so you don't have to cast as many cures in the first place! The list goes oooooon and ooooooon xD It's incredibly easy to tell the horrible players from the good ones now though, that's the upside

[Holy-Mary]

I never had problem with my mp on my Conj , i just have to be careful and attentive with my mana poll , this is a great change for me, i love the challenge.

Before the "mp cost" update i was able to be main healer on my glad or marauder ....................

I hope SE keep listening to "us" the real fan , that asked for challenge and hardcore gaming and apparently Se seems to follow all our "desires", and they are starting to change the game the way we want it ~

It Sux for the other people who want a noob/casual mmorpg ~
i guess they just have to leave & go play Rift or Wow ~

[Dubont]

I never had problem with my mp on my Conj , i just have to be careful and attentive with my mana poll , this is a great change for me, i love the challenge.

Before the "mp cost" update i was able to be main healer on my glad or marauder ....................

I hope SE keep listening to "us" the real fan , that asked for challenge and hardcore gaming and apparently Se seems to follow all our "desires", and they are starting to change the game the way we want it ~

It Sux for the other people who want a noob/casual mmorpg ~
i guess they just have to leave & go play Rift or Wow ~

too bad I don't want a casual MMO and too bad I solod to 70 in WoW in 2 weeks...and played FFXI for 7 years, but you wouldn't know any of that because you didn't bother to read any of the thread =)

[Gath]

I didn't read a single post, I didn't even read the OP, all I saw was someone "crying" about MP usage. Well...
1. L2CONSERVE
2. I managed to see something about hate; L2ACCOMPLICE
3. I'm bored of this thread by number 3.
4. I'm better than you all.
5. My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

My point here is more valid than yours because my opinion has a bigger carry.

[Wild]

Few Ogre tips.

1) have everyone complete the boss CS (if you or someone exits early you may find them at your feet when you get out of the CS)
2) the ogre uses firespit AoE when the person with aggro is out of striking range. so have your tank walk up to the ogre before provoking or acting on the ogre.
3) when transitioning between to top area and bottom area to avoid the ghosts, walk slowly or walk-stop to coax the ogre without getting to far away.
4) at around 50% the ogre lights up while it is casting, have your tank move to the side to stop the ogre's casting.
5) it may be easier for your LS to evasion tank the ogre, with the right gear and abilities it isn't as difficult as you might think.

[TheVedis]

WTB harder dungeon so Dubont can cry more

it should have all 80 mobs and everything should spam aoes nonstop so you have to have a full archer team
and the mobs should all be bunnys