Things that need to change for the better

[Arcell]

Enmity is obviously not fine when provoke doesn't do what provoke is supposed to do. Manage hate? Ok. Went in to the dungeon last night. Waited 30 seconds for the tank to establish hate. I cast a cure 1. Ogre turned to me. Hate manage? yeah...fix enmity.

I'm calling BS here. I've been in this fight more than a dozen times and nothing short of cure/sac 3 should pull hate off the tank if the tank is doing his job. Again provoke does provide an enmity boost but not as big as it was. You have to use ALL the tools at your disposal to succeed

[Santrale]

In a perfect world FFXI would be an ideal game, but online or not people are just people... only behind a computer.. and people will treat others horribly or not help without benefit. Humanity isn't perfect, and creating this masochistic co-dependent/dependent relationship with other players is not my idea of fun. How long was anyone's play time in XI? try and think about how much of that time was spent shouting for help, or doing anything other than actually experiencing the content so you could experience the content. Small rewards for so much time.

[Deceptistar]

The update was awesome, but it had some severe bad sides and a few other things that need tweaking.

1) Cure MP costs. They are much too high and before anyone says "But 11's were high!" yeah, but a cure 3 wasn't 135MP

2) Raises need to be on separate timers. What's the point of having 4 different types of raises, as a CON, if we can only use 2?

3) Stats need enhancing. Aside from VIT and MND, they do next to nothing.

4) Gear damage from death needs to be abolished or reduced. Every dungeon run, I come out with at least 3 pieces of broken gear. This is unacceptable considering people want close to 10k to repair something...

5) the r45 dungeon needs a slight nerf. "CRY MOAR!" no seriously, the ogre opens up with AoE spam and the mages are usually dead in the first 30 seconds of the fight which leads to #6. Also, fix it so that if you wipe and have to return, that the mobs don't pop until you're team is inside the room. It is VERY hard to recover from a wipe on that fight as you will probably wipe again before your team is back into the fight (Stupid ghosts..)

6) Enmity needs to be fixed. The current system is severely flawed. A GLA used 3 vokes and a couple of WS on a mob, I cure 3'd once...mob turned around and bam, 1 shot.

1) He has a point...

2) FFXI allowed raise 1-3 on diff. timers. They werent 3min CDs if i remember correctly

3) Wonder if pple actually notice this?

4) TBH i think the current system may be costing the same, if not more, for the R50s than was before the 1.18 patch

5) This id have to disagree. This boss was a good wake up call for the pple who wanted challenging content. ALOT of us had gotten soft and inattentive due to the ease of things (from NMs to leve lvling). Alot where like 'Hey we hardcore, bring it on SE cause we waiting, hurry the hell up.' and BAM, SE hit us with something everyone has to have their eyes glued to the screen+etc to complete for once. Its hard but no where near impossible. It reminded me alot of those promathia missions and the sense of accomplishments. Right now some of us cant even clear this without demand for some kinda absurd arcarcarcarcconconconglaglaglagla setup, and it made me realize, how much we slacked since the release.

6) no comment. havent spammed heal 3's that much cause knowing SE, it would get the same reactions as mobs in the dunes+cure III >_>; i hear cure2s generate pretty good aggro so i guess its true.

[polyhedral]

That's the attitude that brings in the crowd eh? Fancying any new members into your elite game with that mindset?
Good luck.

[Thanos]

You know whats funny.. all you complainers just complain... yet still keep on playing.. does it feel good to complain about everything?

im very curious.. you all make such bold statements and arguments emo raging and everything... but yet you still play...

whats going on there?

[Santrale]

You know whats funny.. all you complainers just complain... yet still keep on playing.. does it feel good to complain about everything?

im very curious.. you all make such bold statements and arguments emo raging and everything... but yet you still play...

whats going on there?

Actually I'm just holding out to see what happens when they start charging people. They said they'd hold off until the game was everything they wanted us to experience. I am trying to hope it doesn't turn into FFXI-2.0 with shinier graphics. For not there are things okay about the patch, heck I'm a lnc so they seem to want them more than pugs. But I still think it's unfair for other classes, and to make things class specific, hopefully the next big patch will fix this and put us all on even ground. If not, I'm not staying, you'll be happy to hear.

[Dubont]

You know whats funny.. all you complainers just complain... yet still keep on playing.. does it feel good to complain about everything?

im very curious.. you all make such bold statements and arguments emo raging and everything... but yet you still play...

whats going on there?

Why would I quit the game over a few minor complaints, especially when the game, being a MMO and all, changes throughout the years? Why would I want to take away my 10 months of playing just because of a few minor problems in 1 update, especially when SE has already said that most of them will be fixed in the coming 2 updates? Btw, complaining about complainers complaining makes you a complainer as well so why don't you take your own advice and quit?

[Thanos]

Why would I quit the game over a few minor complaints, especially when the game, being a MMO and all, changes throughout the years? Why would I want to take away my 10 months of playing just because of a few minor problems in 1 update, especially when SE has already said that most of them will be fixed in the coming 2 updates? Btw, complaining about complainers complaining makes you a complainer as well so why don't you take your own advice and quit?

complaining about complainers blah blah blah thats very mature lol

why werent u swallowed?

[Dubont]

i am seeking answers actually... tell me why u guys complain in the first place.. i want to understand this mentality you guys have

....you do realize that complaining is what got Yoshi-P to take the reins over Tanaka...right? Complaining is what is going to get us a job system. Complaining is what got us better gear. Complaining is what got us these raids. Complaining is what got us a better (though still skeletonized) battle system. Why not complain when something is wrong? If no one complained, we would still be playing the same game that we were at release, with the possible addition of a few more broken classes.

[Thanos]

....you do realize that complaining is what got Yoshi-P to take the reins over Tanaka...right? Complaining is what is going to get us a job system. Complaining is what got us better gear. Complaining is what got us these raids. Complaining is what got us a better (though still skeletonized) battle system. Why not complain when something is wrong? If no one complained, we would still be playing the same game that we were at release, with the possible addition of a few more broken classes.

if u wanna complain about things that need to be fixed thats fine.. but when u complain about something that is fine and just because u suck screaming that its broken.... go hit a wall please