Dark Knight

[SirTaint]

The best DRKs were used as tanks in FFXI. They held hate better then any job up until the magic emnity buff. They also where the only job that could cap haste for years. 93.3% weapon delay and capped recast for shadows made them extremely potent for tanking HNMs. Even after delay nerfs and hate nerfs people still used DRK to tank because it could access the best -PDT gear and still maintain DPS for hate. Apoc tanks were particularly effective.

[Lemuria]

The best DRKs were used as tanks in FFXI. /snip

No... they really weren't. They could tank WEAK targets, sure, but they basically required cure-bombing from the white mages, red mages, summoners and etceteras in the party or alliance. Aggro wasn't an issue, but their squishy-as-all-hell bodies sure were!

The reason they 'tanked' is because there was a means to basically cap their haste to extreme levels, making their swings almost as fast, if not AS fast, as a dagger. And on a two-hander, it was simply devastating. Stealing aggro against that is futile, so they relied on NUMBERS rather than having a single DRK tank. If one died, he could be revived and be back in the fight in no time flat.

[Dhex]

No... they really weren't. They could tank WEAK targets, sure, but they basically required cure-bombing from the white mages, red mages, summoners and etceteras in the party or alliance. Aggro wasn't an issue, but their squishy-as-all-hell bodies sure were!

The reason they 'tanked' is because there was a means to basically cap their haste to extreme levels, making their swings almost as fast, if not AS fast, as a dagger. And on a two-hander, it was simply devastating. Stealing aggro against that is futile, so they relied on NUMBERS rather than having a single DRK tank. If one died, he could be revived and be back in the fight in no time flat.

Did you ever play with a DRK using a properly setup Apocalypse and Catastrophe... because just from reading this I can tell you never did...

[Arkanethered]

Did you ever play with a DRK using a properly setup Apocalypse and Catastrophe... because just from reading this I can tell you never did...

Seconded....

[Lemuria]

Did you ever play with a DRK using a properly setup Apocalypse and Catastrophe... because just from reading this I can tell you never did...

Uh huh... keep trying to convince yourself. Sure, they could heal a bit of HP... but anything stronger than your average mob would strip their HP down so fast that it made little to no difference. And yes, that INCLUDES the super-upgraded level 99 relic weapon! The only time you would see a Dark Knight tank 'properly' is by downing a Primeval Brew... and only because it basically turned you into a god for a few minutes.

Heck, the heals wouldn't make much difference anyway since many bosses were strong enough to one-shot a Dark Knight if they accidentally stole aggro.

[Alkimi]

Uh huh... keep trying to convince yourself. Sure, they could heal a bit of HP... but anything stronger than your average mob would strip their HP down so fast that it made little to no difference.

That same boss would do exactly the same to a Paladin. Blame Utsusemi for them never fixing defence properly.

Only when they introduced Ochain and fixed Aegis did that game get anything resembling a proper tank. And it was still useless for anything but tanking adds due to the ridiculous "enmity cap" system.