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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    Or did I miss the point?
    Yes, you missed the point; re-read my posts, if you're so inclined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    Yes, you missed the point; re-read my posts, if you're so inclined.
    HMM. All I had to do is go a page or two back and see this lovely gem. (
    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
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    ) Let me boil it down for you:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CHALLENGED AT THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO BE CHALLENGED AT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    ~~~~~~~~~~~NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CHALLENGED AT THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO BE CHALLENGED AT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    It's funny how you missed the point again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    It's funny how you missed the point again.
    There was no point to be missed. Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements. People are not obliged to accept others opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    ~~~~~~~~~~~NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CHALLENGED AT THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO BE CHALLENGED AT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Amen! Speak power to truth!!

    And for some the challenge is to resist the temptation of being first, and sending a signal to SE that they do not agree to lockout. So they patiently wait 6 months for SCOB to be more accessible. That is not my position but I can respect those that do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    There was no point to be missed. Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements. People are not obliged to accept others opinions.
    Neither should you be forcing your opinion as well.

    But let's get back to the point that a lot of people seem to have missed. What the opposing side is asking for is not to keep the current difficulty (most of them can accept the introduction of echo and easing the punishing mechanics by making it easier to recover from), rather, they are against adjustments to the way the current machanics function. Something along the lines of changing the way the mechanic is handled to a different entirety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    Neither should you be forcing your opinion as well.
    Neither am I forcing my opinions on anyone. I just state what I believe to be true assertively.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    ....most of them can accept the introduction of echo and easing the punishing mechanics by making it easier to recover from, rather, they are against adjustments to the way the current machanics function....
    Even that position is a corruption to those want to remain the same 100% exactly as it is, and they've been loudly protesting at the event and on the forums here. And if SE determines that some mechanics needed to be adjusted so the content can DF-ed or PUG-ed with any composition, that makes sense there is no reason to be against that. Making content accessible all is smart thing SE is doing, and they do it gradually and only do it to older content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    So, I don't have to accept your opinion and go right ahead a label it as invalid ideas and incorrect statements? You've basically said you're 100% not interested in debating only creating an echo chamber. This is the internet, that isn't going to happen and I suggest you take yourself elsewhere if that's how you're going to conduct yourself.
    And yet you insist people are missing some invalid points which really are not there to be missed, and you insist that people to be quiet and leave the forums so this can be your echo chamber.

    I don't need to debate false statements, nor join you in construct of false equivalences. To date despite all the rants, no one has proven that the same treatment given to the original BCOB was not a success for SE and the game, and SE is taking the same approach to SCOB which I am happy to applaud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Neither am I forcing my opinions on anyone. I just state what I believe to be true assertively.
    Depends on perspective. From what I can see, your posts in this topic have been forcing your opinion down the throats of those who don't agree with you. Just because you don't think so doesn't mean that you aren't.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Even that position is a corruption to those want to remain the same 100% exactly as it is, and they've been loudly protesting at the even and on the forums here.
    You have missed the point yet again. To use your example, as an example, High Voltage was not nerfed mechanics-wise. It still paralysed everyone, and it still hurts, but it has been eased. The function of the mechanic stayed the same, but it is eased. This is what we want - not changing the inner working of the mechanics entirely but making them less punishing so that everyone can progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    There was no point to be missed. Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements. People are not obliged to accept others opinions.
    So, I don't have to accept your opinion and go right ahead a label it as invalid ideas and incorrect statements? You've basically said you're 100% not interested in debating only creating an echo chamber. This is the internet, that isn't going to happen and I suggest you take yourself elsewhere if that's how you're going to conduct yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    HMM. All I had to do is go a page or two back and see this lovely gem.
    Did you actually read it, or did you just look at it? Because you missed my point, again.

    Let me boil it down for you:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CHALLENGED AT THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO BE CHALLENGED AT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Anytime you would like to start arguing with what I said, that would be great.

    Or, you know, you can just keep arguing with yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements. People are not obliged to accept others opinions.
    Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements.

    I can make baseless assertions too.

    You're obligated, in any reasonable argument, to CONSIDER others' opinions/positions, which you have utterly failed to do.
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    Last edited by Argyle_Darkheart; 10-25-2014 at 02:56 AM.