Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[Argyle_Darkheart]

Dont you ppl have something better to worry about?

I worry about self-entitled defeatists fragmenting our community and endlessly whining until developers caves into their demands. And at the end of the day, it's not going to be enough for you; nothing will ever be enough for you. Because you perpetuate yourself as a victim, rather than as a self-actualizing individual.

Games are based on merit, and advocating that it instead conform to your proclivities is not only an affront to this game, but to the entire medium. You have the same opportunity to participate in the game as everyone else. If you can't achieve something within the game, then you're the one primarily at fault.

That said, I can recognize the practical merits of difficulty adjustment as content gets steadily phased out, and the adjustment doesn't bother me when performed for good reason. But it should not be a measure taken readily. I'm not saying that it is, but there are more than a few very vocal players greedily clamoring for it, and I can't help but wonder why. It's not a lot of players, and I wouldn't say it's the majority of the players in favor of difficulty adjustment. However, I find it prudent to address them sooner, rather than later.

Make no mistake, I am NOT advocating out of my own self-interest; I am advocating out of the best interests of the game, as I see them.
Feel free to put forth your own ideals about the game, but don't misrepresent my position.

This isn't about me versus you. This isn't about us versus them.

It's about challenging yourself.

[Illya]

I worry about self-entitled defeatists fragmenting our community and endlessly whining until developers caves into their demands. And at the end of the day, it's not going to be enough for you; nothing will ever be enough for you. Because you perpetuate yourself as a victim, rather than as a self-actualizing individual.

Games are based on merit, and advocating that it instead conform to your proclivities is not only an affront to this game, but to the entire medium. You have the same opportunity to participate in the game as everyone else. If you can't achieve something within the game, then you're the one primarily at fault.

That said, I can recognize the practical merits of difficulty adjustment as content gets steadily phased out, and the adjustment doesn't bother me when performed for good reason. But it should not be a measure taken readily. I'm not saying that it is, but there are more than a few very vocal players greedily clamoring for it, and I can't help but wonder why. It's not a lot of players, and I wouldn't say it's the majority of the players in favor of difficulty adjustment. However, I find it prudent to address them sooner, rather than later.

Make no mistake, I am NOT advocating out of my own self-interest; I am advocating out of the best interests of the game, as I see them.
Feel free to put forth your own ideals about the game, but don't misrepresent my position.

This isn't about me versus you. This isn't about us versus them.

It's about challenging yourself.

I used to think games were about having fun. Then I read this incredible life-changing post and now I realize games are SERIOUS BUSINESS.

[Utsu]

disgusting ppl

The only things disgusting here are probably your character skin and your way of thinking.

[Edenholt]

herp derp

HA! Delightful! When my wife and I moved to Ragnarok from Odin we joined a FC full of strangers and became part of one of their raid teams. Then my wife and I, along 6 other strangers, took down the first coil in two weeks. When the second coil came the FC disbanded, my wife and I kept one of the mermber of our static and rebuilt it from scratch. We took three months but we found wonderful people to play with and I even started our own FC. With 2.4 we lost half our static, but we're still looking for people, making friends whom we add to our LS and having fun.

The game is full of people eager to raid and learn. People from all time zones and real life backgrounds. It's up to you to be patient, friendly and persistent. The only one limiting you is yourself. So, don't pull the "it's hard to find 7 other people" card on me. All you need to do is being social.

[Squaak]

Normal-mode SCoB isn't the worst nerf we got so far. We've got savage SCoB to make up for the loss. We didn't have that as a back-up for First coil, when the second got released.
However.. I remain hopeful that savage coil will get littlebit more special attention, possibly dropping glamour-related items to alter the look/colour of the High Allagan outfit and/or weapon. It is never fun to see shinies obtained trough tackling "hard" content becoming old fashioned and worn by everyone and their retainer in the matter of a week.. probably days.. or even hours.

[Edenholt]

Normal-mode SCoB isn't the worst nerf we got so far. We've got savage SCoB to make up for the loss. We didn't have that as a back-up for First coil, when the second got released.
However.. I remain hopeful that savage coil will get littlebit more special attention, possibly dropping glamour-related items available to alter the look/colour of the High Allagan outfit and/or weapon. It is never fun to see shinies obtained trough tackling "hard" content becoming old fashioned and worn by everyone and their dog in the matter of a week.. probably days.. or even hours. X.x;

I demand for high allagan chocobo barding! They deserve that love!

[whoopeeragon]

I demand for high allagan chocobo barding! They deserve that love!

I would totally go do Savage mode if it dropped dyeable gear. Same stats, but different colour? I was almost seething with envy when those two...mutts...turned up in the ST quest wearing green High Allagan.

[Lancifer]

I started playing just before the start of 2.3, so my input can be taken with a grain of salt; but... This game is only difficult in-so-far as memorization goes, where the difficulty is founded upon hidden mechanics, trial and error.

Ironically, I've been ridiculed and told I need to "learn how to tank" in an instance I hadn't fully learned, even though I'd been clearing EX Primals left and right in pugs the other week as pld.

I Just recently cleared and subsequently finished farming T5's allagan helm. I'm also sporting a judgment ring of fending for my Primal efforts; and I'm a casual not being carried (been using DF and PF pugs). I'm only just now starting to look at T6-9.

All these nerfs seem to do is increase the margin of error performing "memorized" sequences. Are memorized sequences really worth bragging about, much less the margins thereof?

(Keep in mind, T6-9 is the only thing I haven't touched yet in this game. My opinion is probably moot to most of you.)

[Giyari]

Coil isn't too difficult once you get the mechanics down.

Finding people isn't that hard either.

You know what's the hardest part of coil?

Finding people, who won't bail on you once you gear them out, and abandon you to play another game, i.e Destiny, or join another FC.

I would like to beat turn 9, pre nerf, but gearing unloyal people is starting to annoy me.

Maybe it is because I'm on Excalibur, that my FC can't find loyal people, everyone wants to be BG or something.

[Tiggy]

I used to think games were about having fun. Then I read this incredible life-changing post and now I realize games are SERIOUS BUSINESS.

Belittling what people care about is much better? Games are different things to different people.

This thread is disappointing. Why can't people have a reasonable conversation without insults? Why do people carry all their prejudice into this thread and open up with insults? Why can't people read a some of the posts before insinuating what everyone is saying through the lenses of their prejudices? It's sad. Maybe I expect too much from people.