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    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    I used to think games were about having fun. Then I read this incredible life-changing post and now I realize games are SERIOUS BUSINESS.
    Having fun and taking games seriously aren't mutually exclusive. By my reckoning, it's the opposite.

    Of course, you don't need to share my level of enthusiasm, but I can't help but laugh when you mock it.

    Personal question: do you remain coolly apathetic towards other enthusiasts, or is it only towards gamers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    Having fun and taking games seriously aren't mutually exclusive. By my reckoning, it's the opposite.

    Of course, you don't need to share my level of enthusiasm, but I can't help but laugh when you mock it.

    Personal question: do you remain coolly apathetic towards other enthusiasts, or is it only towards gamers?
    There's a difference between being an enthusiast and being a poopsock. Anyone can be an enthusiast; for example: I'm very enthusiastic about avoiding y'all no-fun-allowed-everything-is-a-competition types that seem to plague almost every MMO with your whiny "elite club" vitriol over "casuals" being able to enjoy the same things you do. You can mock us for wanting to share content, and we can damn well mock you for existing. Or did I miss the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    Or did I miss the point?
    Yes, you missed the point; re-read my posts, if you're so inclined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    Yes, you missed the point; re-read my posts, if you're so inclined.
    HMM. All I had to do is go a page or two back and see this lovely gem. (
    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    ...
    ) Let me boil it down for you:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CHALLENGED AT THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO BE CHALLENGED AT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    ~~~~~~~~~~~NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CHALLENGED AT THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO BE CHALLENGED AT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    It's funny how you missed the point again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    It's funny how you missed the point again.
    There was no point to be missed. Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements. People are not obliged to accept others opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    ~~~~~~~~~~~NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CHALLENGED AT THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO BE CHALLENGED AT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Amen! Speak power to truth!!

    And for some the challenge is to resist the temptation of being first, and sending a signal to SE that they do not agree to lockout. So they patiently wait 6 months for SCOB to be more accessible. That is not my position but I can respect those that do.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 10-25-2014 at 01:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    There was no point to be missed. Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements. People are not obliged to accept others opinions.
    Neither should you be forcing your opinion as well.

    But let's get back to the point that a lot of people seem to have missed. What the opposing side is asking for is not to keep the current difficulty (most of them can accept the introduction of echo and easing the punishing mechanics by making it easier to recover from), rather, they are against adjustments to the way the current machanics function. Something along the lines of changing the way the mechanic is handled to a different entirety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    There was no point to be missed. Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements. People are not obliged to accept others opinions.
    So, I don't have to accept your opinion and go right ahead a label it as invalid ideas and incorrect statements? You've basically said you're 100% not interested in debating only creating an echo chamber. This is the internet, that isn't going to happen and I suggest you take yourself elsewhere if that's how you're going to conduct yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganvire View Post
    HMM. All I had to do is go a page or two back and see this lovely gem.
    Did you actually read it, or did you just look at it? Because you missed my point, again.

    Let me boil it down for you:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE CHALLENGED AT THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO BE CHALLENGED AT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Anytime you would like to start arguing with what I said, that would be great.

    Or, you know, you can just keep arguing with yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements. People are not obliged to accept others opinions.
    Just an angry rant with invalid ideas and incorrect statements.

    I can make baseless assertions too.

    You're obligated, in any reasonable argument, to CONSIDER others' opinions/positions, which you have utterly failed to do.
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    Last edited by Argyle_Darkheart; 10-25-2014 at 02:56 AM.