Correction of prices for optional items

[Magis]

Huh, so we can already see the BS the cash shop is bringing. Every primal got a mount drop, but Odin's was thrown into the cash shop. We got Thancred and Minfillia minions for events, but oh the rest? They are going into the cash shop. THIS is the major negative of the cash shop. Content which should have been in the game originally is now tagged with a IRL price cause people are easily parted with their money.

So why are we paying a subscription?

[Teryaani]

Huh, so we can already see the BS the cash shop is bringing. Every primal got a mount drop, but Odin's was thrown into the cash shop. We got Thancred and Minfillia minions for events, but oh the rest? They are going into the cash shop.

So why are we paying a subscription?

Every subscription game's cash shop inspires this fight. Blizzard has multi page threads whenever something new is added to their store.

I like the idea of a cash shop with stuff that was never in game. I'm a bit put-off by having the old seasonal stuff in there, given they had made the past items available for gil in the past. Slepnir? Fine and dandy. The pumpkin heads from last halloween? kinda iffy for me.

I tried being reasonable with this whole "argument" but everyone on pro-cash shop side literally has 0 argument for their cause other than 'I want to throw money at SE'. It's like, have you seen that movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Remember the Black Knight? That's this.

I don't want to throw money at anyone, but this just doesn't piss me off. I don't get the outrage over it. Optional vanity items aren't game changing things and if the store is done right, it can be completely ignored.

Also I don't intend to keep playing, I'll likely play once a month per patch to catch the story (which they haven't completely screwed up yet though it's certainly heading that way) but if things get even worse I'll just unsubscribe completely. Thanks for asking!

You're welcome! If you don't like something, you shouldn't pay for it. I finally realized that I was only playing WoW because of sunk cost, so I stopped.

[Fornix]

So why are we paying a subscription?

Because a few mounts and minions on itself isn't the sole reason you're currently paying a subscription? SE employees too like to get paid at the end of the month? Investments into new game development have to be made? Server maintenance has to be covered? You know, just the basic essentials for any viable company to stay afloat?

[Codek]

Because a few mounts and minions on itself isn't the sole reason you're currently paying a subscription? SE employees too like to get paid at the end of the month? Investments into new game development have to be made? Server maintenance has to be covered? You know, just the basic essentials for any viable company to stay afloat?

This game was already financially successful while the company itself is not. So, is this cash shop a means to make up funds lost from other projects failures within the company?

[Amused]

This game was already financially successful while the company itself is not. So, is this cash shop a means to make up funds lost from other projects failures within the company?

How about they focus on making those games good so that they are financially successful in their own right rather than bleeding money from already loyal fans and subscribers to this game?

[Starlord]

This game was already financially successful while the company itself is not. So, is this cash shop a means to make up funds lost from other projects failures within the company?

Perhaps to recoup their losses for FFXIV 1.0?

[Fornix]

This game was already financially successful while the company itself is not. So, is this cash shop a means to make up funds lost from other projects failures within the company?

Welcome to corporate 101. You're understanding simple business economics. Yes, it is standard practice for financial income within game developers to be redistributed to other projects. Heck, if not other projects would never even come in to existence. The gaming market is a financially unpredictable one. And many projects get funded by cash cows.

EA has Sims + Battlefield.
Activision has WoW + CoD.
Ubisoft has Assassin's Creed.
Valve has Steam.

Square Enix has been struggling, but may now have FFXIV to fulfill this role.

Publishers which lose their cashcows? Well, they go belly-up. Just think of what happened to THQ. The Warhammer 40k series once was an important source of income to them. However, the sequel failed to generate similar revenue, and not too long after they were out of the market.

People are often quick to try and burn down publishers for having such cash cows. But if it wasn't for that, the gaming industry would be long dead. AAA titles would be impossible.

[Amused]

AAA titles would be impossible.

AAA titles are cancer 99% of the time, because such a large portion of that "AAA" budget goes into marketing. I wouldn't care if AAA games went the way of the dodo. Perhaps it would encourage more creativity amongst developers again.

[Fornix]

AAA titles are cancer 99% of the time, because such a large portion of that "AAA" budget goes into marketing. I wouldn't care if AAA games went the way of the dodo. Perhaps it would encourage more creativity amongst developers again.

Plenty of indie crap to be found on kickstarter, greenlit games, etc. if "creativity" is what you're looking for.

[Amused]

Plenty of indie crap to be found on kickstarter, greenlit games, etc. if "creativity" is what you're looking for.

Indie games aren't very creative either most of the time. They typically just try to cash in on the whole "retro" fad.