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    SE = Business
    FFXIV = Revenue source
    Cash shop = additional revenue
    Good Revenue sources = additional funding
    Additional funding = better content
    Better content = more customers
    more customers = more revenue
    more revenue = happy developer


    I understand most players are younger and don't fully understand the benefits of a profitable game/company, but the cash shop will benefit every player. Every time you see a $20 mount running around understand that the additional funding will trickle back into the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    SE = Business
    FFXIV = Revenue source
    Cash shop = additional revenue
    Good Revenue sources = additional funding
    Additional funding = better content
    Better content = more customers
    more customers = more revenue
    more revenue = happy developer


    I understand most players are younger and don't fully understand the benefits of a profitable game/company, but the cash shop will benefit every player. Every time you see a $20 mount running around understand that the additional funding will trickle back into the game.
    How about

    Keeping the model we signed up for = game retaining players
    retaining subs at known profitable level = ensuring long term future of the game
    Changing the model some of us invested time and money in when the game was a wreck, helping to keep the project alive = betrayal of the games most loyal supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlemagne View Post
    How about

    Keeping the model we signed up for = game retaining players
    retaining subs at known profitable level = ensuring long term future of the game
    Changing the model some of us invested time and money in when the game was a wreck, helping to keep the project alive = betrayal of the games most loyal supporters.
    This sums it up. A lot of people play this game and invested a lot of their gaming time because there is not a real cash shop... now they give us a cash shop, how nice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
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    Except it's not that simple. There's far more to it than just "revenue source"

    Cash Shop = Additional Revenue, Loss of revenue from players subsciptions that leave because of it, Bad PR from Cash Shop, Potential drop in new players buying the game because of the cash shop.

    It's risk reward. SE have determined that the money gained from the sales of the mounts and minions will be more than that loss from the players who leave or who don't just buy the game because of having a cash shop in a subscription game.

    And better content from having more money? Unlikely. This game is highly successful and still doesn't have servers good enough to give everyone player housing. I know F2P games that give every player their own house. Even trial characters on other games, like Wildstar, can get a house. Revenue from the cash shop will likely go into the development of more items for the cash shop to sell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Except it's not that simple. There's far more to it than just "revenue source"

    Cash Shop = Additional Revenue, Loss of revenue from players subsciptions that leave because of it, Bad PR from Cash Shop, Potential drop in new players buying the game because of the cash shop.

    And better content from having more money? Unlikely. This game is highly successful and still doesn't have servers good enough to give everyone player housing. I know F2P games that give every player their own house. Even trial characters on other games, like Wildstar, can get a house.
    So wait if cash shop = less revenue because subsribers are leaving, but it is still hightly successful game ummm so which is it can't both exist? Don't get me wrong I not 100% behind cash shop once they cross the line where it actually effects game combat ect I'll be more onboard the cash shop hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Every time you see a $20 mount running around understand that the additional funding will trickle back into the game.
    Thanks for the laugh. That was good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Every time you see a $20 mount running around understand that the additional funding will trickle back into the game.
    You're making a lot of assumptions that they're gonna put that money back into the game and not directly into their pockets to keep.

    Based on how much they already re-use things in this game, and the constant over-hype and under-delivery of content.... I'm doubting we're gonna see much change with a cash shop going in other than SE exec's getting nicer cars and houses..... and not houses like we got stuck with after how many months of "development" that were just rehashed FC houses..... They sure didnt put much of our subs into that R&D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    You're making a lot of assumptions that they're gonna put that money back into the game and not directly into their pockets to keep.

    Based on how much they already re-use things in this game, and the constant over-hype and under-delivery of content.... I'm doubting we're gonna see much change with a cash shop going in other than SE exec's getting nicer cars and houses..... and not houses like we got stuck with after how many months of "development" that were just rehashed FC houses..... They sure didnt put much of our subs into that R&D.
    Nicely put. This about sums it up really.
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