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  1. #581
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    Mardel's Avatar
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    Eru Meru
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    I'll re-iterate something I said before. This method helps prevent people from buying gil because people buy gil for various reasons.

    They buy for:
    1. To get carried through a fight (content)
    2. Vanity Gear (because people often over price)(or the friendship headpiece)
    3. Mounts (just buy a collector's edition ___ and get ___ in game!)
    4. Minions (like the 10mil nutkins)


    This can help circumvent some of this. Obviously they will keep on adding gear/vanity crafted as normal. (If they don't we wouldn't have known better anyways).
    Another thing is, people are worrying too much. IF the time comes where they start making it F2P and Pay to Win model then stop playing. Odds are most people in here wouldn't hunt down these minions normally or be lucky enough to get a mount drop via EX primal farming.

    Side note: The Cash Shop could help bring minions to people who don't want to buy the music CD... ect but just want the minion itself.

    We have to pay for Eternal Bond as well but you don't see pitch forks being raised that much for that. Isn't that content that you have to pay for >_>?
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    Last edited by Mardel; 10-21-2014 at 01:46 AM.
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  2. #582
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    blip.
    Yeah I agree. Money isnt the issue for me its that the things they add to the cash shop couldve been more content to the game. Like side quests for a minion, maybe a map that could drop a new mount. More vanity crafting recipes.
    if there is something from the shop Id reaaally want id probably buy it but Id feel sad that I didnt get to work on getting rare materials to craft it.

    For instance currently im working on getting the mog book for my summonr. I just recently managed to get alchemy desynth up high enough for mog materia so now im working on the battlemateria 3 and might buy the kingly whisker.
    that is what i mostly do on my playing time and i dont want them to ignore potential content and add it to a cash store instead
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  3. #583
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    Theresa's Avatar
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    Teryn Templa
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    You should all complain to the WoW players that encouraged this kind of thing to work. SE is just doing the same thing Blizzard did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    We sent off this request to the graphics team and they would like to thank you for the idea. (We promise that they didn’t facepalm at the request!)

    While we can't guarantee that a /facepalm emote will be implemented, we will continue to add emotes as we go!

    They DID IT! <3

  4. #584
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    Dalek Codex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theresa View Post
    You should all complain to the WoW players that encouraged this kind of thing to work. SE is just doing the same thing Blizzard did.
    Might as well blame Obama while we are at it.

    "Thanks Obama!"
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    Always remember the Silver Rule:
    "Treat others as they treat you!" ...or something like that.

  5. #585
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    RedAntares's Avatar
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    I don't really mind a cash shop if it's just for vanity, I understand the frustration of some people that want the content that might be in the cash shop to be available in game with each patch with the mindset of "It should be available to everyone and not just to someone with some extra cash" but let's be honest here, how many of you where able to get the new "mouse" pet? Or get the materials for the new sets of swimsuits that everyone wanted?

    In the end, every time they added something new in terms of vanity it was really hard to obtain in game and it wasn't available to anyone, it was just there for the people that already had huge amounts of gil or to the ones that grinded 24/7 to be able to get the materials they needed for just a VANITY item, I would understand if you would have to work hard for a new piece of gear with awesome stats or the next step in your relic weapon, but for vanity items? nah...


    IMO the cash shop is a great addition to the game but I think they should lower subscription fees in order to compensate a bit and maybe in order to calm the people against it.
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    Last edited by RedAntares; 10-21-2014 at 01:58 AM.

  6. #586
    Player Ilitsa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theresa View Post
    You should all complain to the WoW players that encouraged this kind of thing to work. SE is just doing the same thing Blizzard did.
    How original. A WoW shame and blame on an FF forum.
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  7. #587
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    not worth it

    I'll only say this
    Odin Mount could for example be a Odin duty roulette drop, now instead it will be a CASH shop item...

    why don't SE just make it both so lazy people can just buy it while hard workers ...work for it its a win/win/win

    like some people said...
    rare paint make it cash AND drop /win/win
    minion,same thing
    I'll do my best to not buy anything from the shop...unless they start putting amazing that truly looks pimpy
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  8. #588
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAntares View Post
    I don't really mind a cash shop if it's just for vanity, I understand the frustration of some people that want the content that might be in the cash shop to be available in game with each patch with the mindset of "It should be available to everyone and not just to someone with some extra cash" but let's be honest here, how many of you where able to get the new "mouse" pet? Or get the materials for the new sets of swimsuits that everyone wanted?
    But they came with content. Not just on their own. Now those items will be introduced with no ingame content to go with them. Thus is the game diminished.
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  9. #589
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    Zohnax Sinaly
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 80
    If some players are planning to quit VanityShop, they have a pretty childish mentality. Why were you playing the game in the first place? How does VanityShop affect sudden stop that?

    Don't come at me with the assumptions, "Slippery slope into Pay2Win," or, "potential content that would normally be put into the game." The former was shot down immediately as they made the announcement. The latter is like arguing that because someone pirated a movie, that they would have gone out and bought that movie, and thus it's a lost sale. You can't assume potentials to be exact.
    Half of VanityShop is stuff from past Seasonal Events and Slepnir didn't have a price tag next to it, so...

    ...all this drama over Vanity? My bewilderment on here never ceases.

    EDIT: How're some of you going to feel if they end up making the minions Veteran Rewards down the road and Odin comes in at 2.5?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    But they came with content. Not just on their own. Now those items will be introduced with no ingame content to go with them. Thus is the game diminished.
    This is only half right. They were built off of content already in-game. (i.e. new maps for the map system and more fish for fishing)
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    Last edited by Zohnax; 10-21-2014 at 02:06 AM.

  10. #590
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    Ein Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAntares View Post
    IIt should be available to everyone and not to just someone with some extra cash" but let's be honest here, how many of you where able to get the new "mouse" pet? Or get the materials for the new sets of swimsuits that everyone wanted?
    I think the point some people are making is that, sure, you might not be able to get it right away since it's a bajillion gil, but you still can without making an out of game purchase. It's obtainable in the game. Like the spring dress, you can buy it now because the price has gone down from when it was first released and unaffordable to many people. Other than a handful of minions like the nutkin or bluebird, which is still obtainable by the way without forking more money on top of a sub. Just because people can't afford it with gil doesn't make it the same as an exclusive cash shop item.

    To these people, it's just more salt in the wound if these were supposed to be in game rewards at some point.

    From the information we have, "exclusive" cash shop items are not obtainable in the game at all unless you purchase them from the store. Now if they're trade-able or market board-able then that's an entirely different story but there was no mention of that.
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