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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I really don't understand, it's simple to just not buy the optional items. When they see that isn't working for them they will cut off the cash shop idea entirely.

    Dropping your sub does not resolve this particular situation, Not buying the optional stuff does.
    This. The correct way to demonstrate against the cash shop is to stay subscribed but never purchase from the cash shop. This way they will know that people still like the game but not the cash shop. If people unsubscribe then it's conflated with many other possible reasons.

    Unfortunately I don't have a lot of faith in people to exhibit self control and organization, but a boycott of the cash shop specifically is what we should do if we want it gone.
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  2. #152
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatestorm View Post
    Hey, check out all these people who will cancel their subs the first time they add level 1 cash shop re-textures of high end raid gear with a different color palate.
    Yes because World of Warcraft does this

    wait

    Quote Originally Posted by Arisme View Post
    i dont care if it is a minion in the form of a piece of crap or the most awesome mount, this is a spit in the face at the player base, and the only thing i see here is that you are opening the mouth waiting for the loogie
    Son/daughter, I done told you that the term is slap.

    You best check yourself before you lose all your angry video gamer cred.


    ed. but if you are insinuating that I would make out with Yoshi-P, I would not completely rule this out if it occurred within the right context.
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    Last edited by Mahri; 10-20-2014 at 08:30 AM.

  3. #153
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    Arianna Bellegarde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I really don't understand, it's simple to just not buy the optional items. When they see that isn't working for them they will cut off the cash shop idea entirely.

    Dropping your sub does not resolve this particular situation, Not buying the optional stuff does.
    again with that, its not about not buying the optional items, its about the disrespect to you playerbase, YOU ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR A SUB, anything more is out of the question, and thats a fact.
    if you dont hava a problem with that, keep playing i dont care, but im not giving my money to square anymore.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I guess they're gonna release the price and all other purchaseble items in london fan fest.
    They had some prices up there, not for the mount though. Minions and old Halloween gear seemed to be around £2-3.
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I really don't understand, it's simple to just not buy the optional items. When they see that isn't working for them they will cut off the cash shop idea entirely.

    Dropping your sub does not resolve this particular situation, Not buying the optional stuff does.
    You are completely missing the point. The issue isn't that it's simple to "just not buy it", but the fact that from now on, potential content will be lost to the cash shop just so SE can make an extra few dollars off of you every pay day.
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    Last edited by saeedaisspecial; 10-20-2014 at 08:34 AM.

  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gextiv View Post
    *In Nigerian accent*
    Here we go!

    Does anyone remember Tera? Eventually the cash shop in Tera was built up to support their current monetization model: F2P

    Adding an official cash shop to the game will only set in the precedent for what can become...

    Unfortunately from my personal observations of mmorpg forums, no amount of whining/complaining will deter a company once they've made decisions of this nature, i.e adding a cash to their mmorpg.
    I'm not sure if we can discuss other games here but anyway, that game cash items at least were tradeable and always supplied. Not that I agree with it tho, just saying.
    Also I doubt FFXIV would go F2P seeing how FFXI didn't after so many years. F2P is a desperate move to attract more players while earning more money with cash shop, it's a sign of a dying game craving for population. FFXIV is nowhere near that, it's pretty much alive.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    This. The correct way to demonstrate against the cash shop is to stay subscribed but never purchase from the cash shop. This way they will know that people still like the game but not the cash shop. If people unsubscribe then it's conflated with many other possible reasons.

    Unfortunately I don't have a lot of faith in people to exhibit self control and organization, but a boycott of the cash shop specifically is what we should do if we want it gone.
    It's not going to work because it is a win/win situation. 1.) Subscribers are going to stay subscribed. They lose no money. 2.) There will always be someone who will buy from the cash shop. Still SE not losing any money.

    Once a cash shop is announced in an mmo, it says forever. Never have I seen an MMO take a cash shop off its service after implementation. If there is such a game, I'd love to know.

    We can complain. We can whine. We cannot stop this from happening.
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    Just Do It.

  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    You are completely missing the point. The issue isn't that it's simple to "just not buy it", but the fact that from now on, potential content will be lost to the cash shop just so SE can make an extra few dollars of you every pay day.
    correct. I already done with this game. as soon as my time is done. i will not worry about ffxiv anymore. I got other games i can play. I might return on Heavensward for the content but thats it. i Play games for their content/Storylines. and since they release around 10 missions or so per patch i can finish 2.4 in one week so not worried. if i dont oh well. got more content to look forward in Spring next year or might as well just stay unsubscribed and see how the game fares from this point forward.
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  9. #159
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    Rori Uguu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gextiv View Post
    *In Nigerian accent*
    Here we go!

    Does anyone remember Tera? Eventually the cash shop in Tera was built up to support their current monetization model: F2P

    Adding an official cash shop to the game will only set in the precedent for what can become...

    Unfortunately from my personal observations of mmorpg forums, no amount of whining/complaining will deter a company once they've made decisions of this nature, i.e adding a cash to their mmorpg.
    Pretty much, cash shops are either set up on a game that launches as F2P, a game that is more sooner than later going F2P, a couple of Buy to Play games, or in WoW's case a cash shop that starts as cosmetic only but eventually adds P2W features like level boosts. Seeing how ARR is a straight up copy of a lot of MMOs, I don't see why any of these things won't eventually happen.
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  10. #160
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    Ukaei Ukaei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    This. The correct way to demonstrate against the cash shop is to stay subscribed but never purchase from the cash shop. This way they will know that people still like the game but not the cash shop. If people unsubscribe then it's conflated with many other possible reasons.

    Unfortunately I don't have a lot of faith in people to exhibit self control and organization, but a boycott of the cash shop specifically is what we should do if we want it gone.
    Correct? Maybe... but will it do any good? The whales will more than make up for people who do not purchase from the cash shop. Once the cash shop is implemented, I doubt it will ever be removed.
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    PS3 limitations

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