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    Player Fayto's Avatar
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    Faye Saotome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    It harms my enjoyment of the game, as I'm sure it does many others.
    Again, get off your high horse. Luxury items does not harm your enjoyment, this is what we call being greedy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    So you won't mind if they do this with any future items? So say... they make some awesome new raid loot then instead replace all the skins on them with crappy level 1 skins and instead sell the skins as glamour items in the cash shop. You wouldn't mind that?

    Because that is precisely what they have done here. You seriously don't see the problem with this? They are cutting content they developed using YOUR SUB and asking people to pay AGAIN for it.
    I don't, because it is items I do not need to play the game.
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    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    Again, get off your high horse. Luxury items does not harm your enjoyment, this is what we call being greedy.
    I love that you keep saying it because the only person coming across as being on a high horse here is you.
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    Player Fayto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    I love that you keep saying it because the only person coming across as being on a high horse here is you.
    You're the one complaining about a non necessary luxury item ruining your enjoyment of a game. Not only do you have a high horse, but you are extremely greedy.
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    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    I love that you keep saying it because the only person coming across as being on a high horse here is you.
    I would like to buy a high horse please, oh look at that I can in 2.4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    So you won't mind if they do this with any future items? So say... they make some awesome new raid loot then instead replace all the skins on them with crappy level 1 skins and instead sell the skins as glamour items in the cash shop. You wouldn't mind that?
    It's funny how much you people blow this out of proportion when no MMORPG as of 2014 has done this unless it was already doing it from the start. It's time to get over it and realize this is optional and will be optional. Hey did I have to buy Second Coil gear or decent graphics after they added Fantasias to the Mog Station...the cash shop that already existed? Did i have to buy Ramuh's fight and gear after they added purchasable Retainers?

    No?

    Okay then.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    Get over yourselves, just don't buy if you are against it. Doesn't harm anyone.
    Take a look at the Sleipnir mount. It's already in game, the model is already in use. This also could have been a reward from the Odin trial when it's added to the live servers.

    Instead they have cut a mount that already has a model on the live servers to sell separately elsewhere. Notice that they have done NO extra work to produce this mount for the cash shop as it already exists in the game as Odin's mount, and since Odin can spawn as any race there is one already scaled appropriately for every race.

    I'm willing to overlook it when they claim that a separate team produced cash shop fluff specifically to be sold as an extra but the Sleipnir mount is blatantly cut content just to cash in on some extra money.

    Please don't claim it 'doesn't harm anyone' when they have so obviously removed content that EVERYONE could have enjoyed to sell it to a few that cough up extra for it.
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    Neriya Fior
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    A cash shop is nothing like buying a soundtrack that comes with a code for an in-game item. The soundtrack/book/doll/etc has value beyond just a slip of paper inside. Someone may buy the item solely for the code, but that doesn't take away the fact that you are paying for and investing in more than just that one aspect of the purchase.

    I'm very disappointed that they are going this route. The pricing is steep and we don't even know yet how much the mount is. That they didn't feel comfortable putting that on the slide but showing us that minions would be $5 and past year's holiday outfits would be $3 (instead of an in-game gil sink option), says quite a bit to me about how comfortable they feel about the plan as a whole. They were afraid to tell a live crowd face to face.
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    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    Get over yourselves, just don't buy if you are against it. Doesn't harm anyone.
    It harms my enjoyment of the game, as I'm sure it does many others.
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    Ghalleon Helseth
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    I have friends who have already cancelled their subs. Double dipping is unacceptable. So long as they take a monthly subscription fee from their players, a cash shop is an insult to every one of us.

    I will never purchase an item from this cash shop, and encourage you all to do the same.
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    --Ghalleon Helseth of Arrzaneth
    Eius in obitu nostro praesentia muniamur.

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    Toodles Mcduff
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatestorm View Post
    I have friends who have already cancelled their subs. Double dipping is unacceptable. So long as they take a monthly subscription fee from their players, a cash shop is an insult to every one of us.

    I will never purchase an item from this cash shop, and encourage you all to do the same.
    What the crap.

    Insult? LOL.

    Let SE make extra $$ on the people who're willing to buy, it further assists development of the game.

    No harm done if it isn't P2W.
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