about egi's models

[ereskigal]

Couldn't agree more Dwill name pops up in every thread of some make about smn just look at his post history. Almost like he trolls any post that wants any change to smn. Anyway I for see changes to sch/smn come 3.0 when you can take 8 sch in a 8 man trail and win with easy something is wrong. SE biggest problem was they need to make the game have a more FF feel at 2.0 and putting smn at lunch help but they also needed a second healer what we end up with was rushed smn and sch should have never branch off same class. I personally don't think we will see anther 2 job that branch off class.

[Renik]

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guess what, part of the purpose of my post was a bait, to know if you're insane enough to be in these forums for more than 12h w/o resting, and you passed it, this proves, why a person like you have zero credibility, i have explained why your numbers are wrong, i have explained why i think most people is not pleased with the design of the egis, and you keep trying to impose your wrong data an opinions calling mines a "lie" with nothing more to backup your stance than your impulsive "naysaying."

I'll stop it here, i really hate using the forums the way you make me do it, ppl like you just make me sic and i can't avoid being a trolling-counter troll.

Edit: Dwill, please ignore me from now because you have been placed on my ignore list and i won't be seeing any of your posts.

[DeceptionsWrath]

I believe they'll make the newer Egis sharper looking because of the power we might gain in expansion content but it'd be silly to go back and fix something that isn't broken because only <1% of the playerbase doesn't like the way it looks. Or they could ignore it all and keep doing what they are doing (which is probably the game plan anyway).

No idea where you got your percents from, but i think it'd be the other way around. Not sure why anyone would even argue about making them look better. But whatever makes you sleep better i suppose.

[Dwill]

Couldn't agree more Dwill name pops up in every thread of some make about smn just look at his post history. Almost like he trolls any post that wants any change to smn. Anyway I for see changes to sch/smn come 3.0 when you can take 8 sch in a 8 man trail and win with easy something is wrong. SE biggest problem was they need to make the game have a more FF feel at 2.0 and putting smn at lunch help but they also needed a second healer what we end up with was rushed smn and sch should have never branch off same class. I personally don't think we will see anther 2 job that branch off class.

Disagrees with something I agree with = must be a troll. Flawless logic.

guess what, part of the purpose of my post was a bait, to know if you're insane enough to be in these forums for more than 12h w/o resting, and you passed it, this proves, why a person like you have zero credibility, i have explained why your numbers are wrong, i have explained why i think most people is not pleased with the design of the egis, and you keep trying to impose your wrong data an opinions calling mines a "lie" with nothing more to backup your stance than your impulsive "naysaying."

I'll stop it here, i really hate using the forums the way you make do it, ppl like you just make me sic and i can't avoid being a trolling-counter troll.

Why am I not surprised to see you resort to Ad Hominem without even knowing me in real life. Well, in the end, that just shows that you really had no leg to stand on. Good job on discrediting yourself with your endless sea of fallacies. By the way, this might be useful to you since it still seems that you haven't learned its meaning.

No idea where you got your percents from, but i think it'd be the othe way around. Not sure why anyone would even argue about making them look better. But whatever makes you sleep better i suppose.

<1% of the playerbase posts on the forums. Not even the whole forum agrees that they should change. I've never seen nor heard of anyone complaining about the egis in game so while 1% seems lowish, it's not a far fetched number.

[DeceptionsWrath]

I sure would love to see where everyone is grabbing these percents from. Now only 1% of players post on the forums? Source?

[Atomnium]

Forgot to reply to this, the thing is they will try to follow the same design choice for all egis, for the sake of consistence, ..*snip*.. either new egis will follow the same or they will have to change the first three.

The sake of consistence isn't mandatory, they totally can revamp the first three egis. SE proved in the past to be able to dramaticaly change things if needed : at FFXI release, game design of some monsters was really horrible and wrong looking, they changed it later. On FFXIV, 1.X was "too heavy for a customer's machine" and other stuffs we all know, they discarded Tanaka and we got Yoshida + 2.0.
Consistence and Square Enix seems to not work together, which is a nice and a bad thing for us.

[Dwill]

I sure would love to see where everyone is grabbing these percents from. Now only 1% of players post on the forums? Source?

We have 500,000 confirmed daily login which would be even more if you included people who only login once every few days.. Excluding said people who only login once every few days, you'd need at the very least 5,000 different players posting, which is obviously not the case on the english boards, which is the most active one of the lot. Now, let's say that there would be 5000 players posting on here, to say that at least 1% of the dailyplayerbase agrees with you, you'd need every single one of those to agree with you in the first place which is obviously never going to happen.

[Alukah]

I guess this will need to be posted every page of this thread at this point :

You can make a new thread per day with that quote if you wish, but that wont change how people feel about this, that wont stop people from giving feedback and hoping for a change.

The sake of consistence isn't mandatory, they totally can revamp the first three egis. SE proved in the past to be able to dramaticaly change things if needed : at FFXI release, game design of some monsters was really horrible and wrong looking, they changed it later. On FFXIV, 1.X was "too heavy for a customer's machine" and other stuffs we all know, they discarded Tanaka and we got Yoshida + 2.0.
Consistence and Square Enix seems to not work together, which is a nice and a bad thing for us.

Oh I know they can, the last part of my post reads as "or they will have to change the first three."

[Dyne_Fellpool]

You can make a new thread per day with that quote if you wish, but that wont change how people feel about this, that wont stop people from giving feedback and hoping for a change.

No, but it does mean the horse is officially dead. Please stop beating it.

[Alukah]

No, but it does mean the horse is officially dead. Please stop beating it.

If the recent housing issue taught people anything, should be not to trust quotes that are 1 year old (or older).

It's not like you are being forced to read or participate in this discussion either so...