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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    With a 100,000 people attempting that meld, there's something like an 80% chance for it to happen to someone. There are more than 100,000 people playing the game. Why is it acceptable for some people to just get screwed for no other reason than RNG hates them.

    And that's only failing 16 times in a row, you'll see 10 in a row a lot more frequently.
    Because that is how reality is. And an RPG is a second "reality".

    And having a system of; fail 3 times in a row, then you get 100% success on your 4th. It makes no sense when it comes to an RPG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    With a 100,000 people attempting that meld, there's something like an 80% chance for it to happen to someone. There are more than 100,000 people playing the game. Why is it acceptable for some people to just get screwed for no other reason than RNG hates them.

    And that's only failing 16 times in a row, you'll see 10 in a row a lot more frequently.
    The RNG is not an entity nor anything with a semblance of thought. It doesn't hate people, it just does what it's been programmed to do. Unless the probability was a 100% chance of success every meld, then someone will be the unlucky person. Having a few unlucky person does not justify removing any sense of risk from the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    The chances look perfectly reasonable to me. (Especially compared to overmelding.)
    You also don't lose your alexandrite upon failure.
    lol 10/10 would laugh again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Because that is how reality is. And an RPG is a second "reality".

    And having a system of; fail 3 times in a row, then you get 100% success on your 4th. It makes no sense when it comes to an RPG.
    A lot of things in RPGs get explained away to make sense, like Tokens. Say you fail a meld with your materia on your scroll and all that is left is an untradeable unsellable powder of the materia you tried to meld - by using that powder in conjunction with a meld of the same type you get a boosted chance (if SE feels nice - 100%, if SE wants to torture us but still give hope - say something like 30% and you get two powders if it fails again).

    The reason why I say of the same type and tier is because it would be pretty unfair to fail a useless tier I to then put in a great tier IV.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-24-2014 at 09:43 AM.

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    Defending Novus meld failure is like defending getting kicked in the nuts. There's a possibility you'll never get kicked in the nuts on your way to work and everything will be great, or there's the chance you could get kicked in the nuts 10 times before you get there. The question is, why would you want to put in the chance of getting kicked in the nuts at all? The people that defend it were never kicked in the nuts or had expensive nut-kick cushioning undies on that other people can't afford and then say "I don't see how getting kicked in nuts is such a big deal."
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    Last edited by Gaddes; 09-24-2014 at 09:17 AM.

    "Well, it's no Vana'diel, but it'll have to do..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaddes View Post
    Defending Novus meld failure is like defending getting kicked in the nuts. There's a possibility you'll never get kicked in the nuts on your way to work and everything will be great, or there's the chance you could get kicked in the nuts 10 times before you get there. The question is, why would you want to put in the chance of getting kicked in the nuts at all?
    Except it's nothing like that because you can't spiritbind a new set of nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    Except it's nothing like that because you can't spiritbind a new set of nuts.
    LOL, well maybe you could, who knows...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CeeTwo View Post
    How many handouts do people want these days? No... Just no.

    You want the weapon? Go earn it like everyone else that finished it had to. You don't NEED the weapon, if you don't like the quest, don't do it.
    On many servers, buying all the materia for the 'optimum' melds still will cost 10+ million gil, even if you don't fail any.

    Some of you really need to learn what a hand out is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerichai View Post
    On many servers, buying all the materia for the 'optimum' melds still will cost 10+ million gil, even if you don't fail any.

    Some of you really need to learn what a hand out is...
    You, like many others, are making a very fundamental mistake. You are trying to value a novus weapon. A novus weapon will only cost as much money as the player is willing to spend on it. Which can range from 0 to upwards of millions of gil. Or if you feel you need to spend gil for materia, you can at least break even by selling unwanted materia obtained from spirit bonding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CeeTwo View Post
    The weapon will continue to be upgraded passed 110... derp.
    And secondary stats will continue to have a much smaller impact to overall effectiveness compared to the sheer power of primary stats and weapon damage.

    Sure, two stats may represent the 'optimal', but most people can show you the loss of melding three stats is practically negligible.

    Honestly, now that the nexus step is out, I think people are probably better off just getting to that step ASAP as the gain in weapon damage in primary stats outweighs trying to get a future more points in secondaries with Teir IV (yes I realize your secondary choices scale too, but the same principle applies as it does at the Novus state).
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