The weapon will continue to be upgraded passed 110... derp.I don't know how people can justify spending 10 million+ on a weapon that isn't BIS, and even if it was it's a weapon that will be outdated within 3 months with patch 2.4 easy content. No doubt Shiva weapon will be i115. I decided to meld no tier 4s in my Novus and I found that expensive enough - 2 million gil wasted. Melding tier 4s is insanity.

And secondary stats will continue to have a much smaller impact to overall effectiveness compared to the sheer power of primary stats and weapon damage.
Sure, two stats may represent the 'optimal', but most people can show you the loss of melding three stats is practically negligible.
Honestly, now that the nexus step is out, I think people are probably better off just getting to that step ASAP as the gain in weapon damage in primary stats outweighs trying to get a future more points in secondaries with Teir IV (yes I realize your secondary choices scale too, but the same principle applies as it does at the Novus state).


Wait, so you can meld another stat onto it and bypass Class IV Materia alltogether?!Sure, two stats may represent the 'optimal', but most people can show you the loss of melding three stats is practically negligible.
Honestly, now that the nexus step is out, I think people are probably better off just getting to that step ASAP as the gain in weapon damage in primary stats outweighs trying to get a future more points in secondaries with Teir IV (yes I realize your secondary choices scale too, but the same principle applies as it does at the Novus state).
Awesome. Since I don't raid cutting edge, I have no reason to minmax to this extreme extent.
700K Det IV materia combined with "OMG RNG FAIL BECAUSE WE CAN CODE IT LAWL!" sounds like no fun at all.
Thanks for the input!
You mean spiritbonding? Unless you can EZmode craft Ilvl 90 (most people can't), you have 3 layers of RNG when it comes to Class IV materia:The other problem is that this system is built on top of the other massive RNG fest of melding where you also have something like a 50% fail rate (elemental and primary stat materia i'm looking at you).
-Getting the materia you need
-Getting a Class IV version of said materia (small chance depending on on level, even ilvl 90 is not guaranteed)
-Melding it successfully.
Looking at the insane prices, I honestly wonder how many people go the RMT route...
Last edited by Granyala; 09-24-2014 at 10:22 AM.


You can also rework your Novus/Nexus now. So even if you go the 3 stat route, you can just remove the *extra* stat and put on those expensive Tier IV materia at a later date when you have them.And secondary stats will continue to have a much smaller impact to overall effectiveness compared to the sheer power of primary stats and weapon damage.
Sure, two stats may represent the 'optimal', but most people can show you the loss of melding three stats is practically negligible.
Honestly, now that the nexus step is out, I think people are probably better off just getting to that step ASAP as the gain in weapon damage in primary stats outweighs trying to get a future more points in secondaries with Teir IV (yes I realize your secondary choices scale too, but the same principle applies as it does at the Novus state).
Recall that many ppl said they could not justify spending 13500 myth on the books?I don't know how people can justify spending 10 million+ on a weapon that isn't BIS, and even if it was it's a weapon that will be outdated within 3 months with patch 2.4 easy content. No doubt Shiva weapon will be i115. I decided to meld no tier 4s in my Novus and I found that expensive enough - 2 million gil wasted. Melding tier 4s is insanity.
It was the same case, now everyone just say don't know how to spend their myths while it caps everyday.
Anyone know what gear has better chance to convert into Savage Aim/Might IV?


Hmmm sounds like you guys need them to bring the natalan wolf camp back.
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