Novus Meld Failure - Remove Please

[tOnni3]

At some point, I'd love to lost alexandrite instead of IV materia

[Parz3val]

Not a bad idea Tonni3

[Deedsie]

I'm fine with it as is. I'm not spending any money at all on T4s. Only reason I stuck in two Savage Might IVs is because I had them on hand to begin with. As soon as I'm out of Savage Aim III melds, I'm moving on to a third stat.

[CeeTwo]

As the title suggests, please remove the failure chance from Novus Infusion. There is 0 need for this. Putting in the time/effort to earn the Alexandrites & Materia is enough.

Seen a number of people fail 6 straight Grade IV infusions, it's messed up.

How many handouts do people want these days? No... Just no.

You want the weapon? Go earn it like everyone else that finished it had to. You don't NEED the weapon, if you don't like the quest, don't do it.

[Jerichai]

How many handouts do people want these days? No... Just no.

You want the weapon? Go earn it like everyone else that finished it had to. You don't NEED the weapon, if you don't like the quest, don't do it.

On many servers, buying all the materia for the 'optimum' melds still will cost 10+ million gil, even if you don't fail any.

Some of you really need to learn what a hand out is...

[Barboron]

On many servers, buying all the materia for the 'optimum' melds still will cost 10+ million gil, even if you don't fail any.

Some of you really need to learn what a hand out is...

You, like many others, are making a very fundamental mistake. You are trying to value a novus weapon. A novus weapon will only cost as much money as the player is willing to spend on it. Which can range from 0 to upwards of millions of gil. Or if you feel you need to spend gil for materia, you can at least break even by selling unwanted materia obtained from spirit bonding.

[Jerichai]

You, like many others, are making a very fundamental mistake. You are trying to value a novus weapon. A novus weapon will only cost as much money as the player is willing to spend on it. Which can range from 0 to upwards of millions of gil. Or if you feel you need to spend gil for materia, you can at least break even by selling unwanted materia obtained from spirit bonding.

I'm not trying to value Novus. Personally, I'm not bothering with the relic questline because I value my enjoyment of FF14 to taint it with RNG riddled slog-fests that provide no skillful challenges or encourages large group play (outside of randomly cobbled together FATE groups or SB parties). This is of course a personal view point, and if you enjoy the kind of activities in the Atma to Novus levels of relic advancement, more power to you.

What I am trying to say is the gil or time required to achieve what people have dubbed an 'optimal' Novus is still a fairly large investment. I just get tired of people throwing out terms like 'hand-outs' because some people dare to suggest slightly less punitive RNG systems.

[Jerichai]

You, like many others, are making a very fundamental mistake. You are trying to value a novus weapon. A novus weapon will only cost as much money as the player is willing to spend on it. Which can range from 0 to upwards of millions of gil. Or if you feel you need to spend gil for materia, you can at least break even by selling unwanted materia obtained from spirit bonding.

Besides all that, people will always assign some kind of 'value' to anything they do or try to obtain. In many respects it's how we decide to do something. Things like trying to decide if something is fun enough, or provides enough character advancement, or time efficient enough is still assigning a value to something. It does have to be currency based for it to be of value.

[Barboron]

I'm not trying to value Novus.

You just did, you said 10million+.

Besides all that, people will always assign some kind of 'value' to anything they do or try to obtain. In many respects it's how we decide to do something. Things like trying to decide if something is fun enough, or provides enough character advancement, or time efficient enough is still assigning a value to something. It does have to be currency based for it to be of value.

Anything that's considered a value then, is it weighted in gil? Like Odin's sword for example? No, because it can not be bought, sold, or exchanged. While materia and other mats can, the prices fluctuate which goes back to what I said, an item will only hold as much value as the player trying to obtain it will put into it. And while it can have the sentimental value, pretty much reiterating my previous point, you put a currency value on. Which is fair enough as long as the understanding for players whom do put on this value that this value is what it is worth to them and means little to nothing to any other player which is why most complain threads about relic costs are so flawed in their argument because they try to say it costs to much in terms of gil.

[Xenor]

I don't know how people can justify spending 10 million+ on a weapon that isn't BIS, and even if it was it's a weapon that will be outdated within 3 months with patch 2.4 easy content. No doubt Shiva weapon will be i115. I decided to meld no tier 4s in my Novus and I found that expensive enough - 2 million gil wasted. Melding tier 4s is insanity.