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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    From what I understand, back in the beginning of 2.0 Yoshi repeatedly mentioned the fact that Musketeer has been highly anticipated by the players.
    He mentioned Musketeer because it was promised since 2010 and Thief (now Rogue) because it is a very classic FF class

    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    It has already been confirmed that we would get Ninja in 2.4 and then get a new tank and healer in the expansion, one of which would be the gun job.
    I hope the tank role.
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    Zantitrach Aergahrsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    He mentioned Musketeer because it was promised since 2010 and Thief (now Rogue) because it is a very classic FF class


    I hope the tank role.
    Definitely Heal role
    Chemist
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    OH YEAH

    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    There is already a "gun class guild" in the game. It shares the same building with the Marauder guild in the Coral Tower of Upper Limsa Lominsa. Has been there from 1.0 iirc.

    Inside you will find a gun toting guild leader and a bunch of npcs practicing with their guns in the main area and the target practice area of the basement.

    Also Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn the leader of the city state wields guns as well.

    E3 Interview-Machinist!
    MMORPG: What’s your favorite Final Fantasy class that is not in Final Fantasy XIV.

    Yoshi - P: I really like Cecil’s story from Final Fantasy IV, so the Dark Knight. From Final Fantasy Tactics, the Machinist.
    See while the Machinist uses guns, its neither a heal nor tank role (which apparently was confirmed, I had no idea?).

    I honestly don't see how a gun -tank class will work in general to be frank.
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    While I am not saying its going to be a tank, I think it could fit where he said not what people are expecting.

    If you look at the Skills from tactics;
    High Hp
    Low Atk
    High Evasion- 18%

    Defense Boost
    Arcane Defense
    Arm Shot - Disable
    Counter Tackle- Reactionary
    Manashield- Damage to Mana instead of HP


    Its got a good start for a tank-y type class.

    The "gun"class has me the most excited. It has so many possibilities to fill any role based on previous incarnations in the FF series. DiPuS, Heals(support), and Tank. I look forward to what Yoshi and his crew do with it.

    An observation if I may?- The gun models currently in the game are short barrel single handed weapons. Some times shown duel wielded but more often then not the NPCs only carry one. I am not picturing a long range sniper type class being implemented based on these models.

    Someone please find me a Boondock Saints, 1 man 6 guns gif!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    SNIP
    If you were using Mustadio as a tank, you were definitely using him wrong. He was a support character, through and through.

    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    Seriously they did not say we would ONLY be getting a heals and tank during the expansion, just saying those two roles would be coming as an answer to the question of why they were only introducing a DPS before the expansion. So the gun class may not be either of those.
    That would be a relief. I had no idea one way or the other, but there was someone else who said it was stated sooo. Yeah.
    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    and I can't see it being a tank, as tanks have to stay in melee range at all times to complete their task.
    Completely agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    but then you'll have a gun... and never use it to complete your role so whats the point? With a healer youd actually be making it purely for aesthetics as opposed to mechanics, which is something SE really shouldn't do.
    My SCH and its book and my WHM and its cane would have a word with you about never using their "weapons"......
    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    full circle we come back to DPS,
    If its truly not a guaranteed tank/heal class like that earlier guy said then I fully suspect it will be DPS class. Its just I was expressing myself that a tank it could not be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantitrach View Post
    If you were using Mustadio as a tank, you were definitely using him wrong. He was a support character, through and through.

    I was referring more to the abilities listed for Barich Fendsor. He has several defensive abilities you can see in the link with High HP and evasion. In my earlier post I quoted Yoshi from an interview saying he liked the Machinist from tactics. When I looked it up I found that there is a foundation for the class being a tank. I am not saying Mustardio ; ) was a tank in tactics or the gun class will be. Just sharing some thoughts on what I found related to what Yoshi said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkylerStorm View Post
    I just don't get how a healer would be the gun class :/

    "HP is low, better shoot them in the face!"


    You were saying?
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    Last edited by Duelle; 09-22-2014 at 08:50 AM. Reason: for clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post


    You were saying?


    "Hey, need a RES here~~!"

    *runs over and points shotgun at KOed player's face*

    "Ok! OK! I'm ok I can get up now."
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    closed for business till further notice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    I was referring more to the abilities listed for Barich Fendsor. He has several defensive abilities you can see in the link with High HP and evasion. In my earlier post I quoted Yoshi from an interview saying he liked the Machinist from tactics. When I looked it up I found that there is a foundation for the class being a tank. I am not saying Mustardio ; ) was a tank in tactics or the gun class will be. Just sharing some thoughts on what I found related to what Yoshi said.
    Other than him being a "Boss" I don't recall him having particularly high HP or evasion. He was still just like Mustadio with long range damage and crippling. Actually after looking at Barich's page, it doesn't list any of his stats. The states you gave are for Mustadio NOT Barich. ALL of the main character's have decent evasion rates. Heck Orlandeau has 20% as well as Cloud for instance.
    Mustadio's only "Defensive" ability is to keep his gear from being broken... so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantitrach View Post
    Other than him being a "Boss" I don't recall him having particularly high HP or evasion. He was still just like Mustadio with long range damage and crippling. Actually after looking at Barich's page, it doesn't list any of his stats. The states you gave are for Mustadio NOT Barich. ALL of the main character's have decent evasion rates. Heck Orlandeau has 20% as well as Cloud for instance.
    Mustadio's only "Defensive" ability is to keep his gear from being broken... so....
    Again I am only speculating on what a machinist could be in FF14 based on this quote:
    E3 Interview-
    MMORPG: What’s your favorite Final Fantasy class that is not in Final Fantasy XIV.

    Yoshi - P: I really like Cecil’s story from Final Fantasy IV, so the Dark Knight. From Final Fantasy Tactics, the Machinist.

    The link from that previous post is for the machinist job. It has both Mastadio and Barich listed as playing the class and continues to list several of the skills available. 1 to Mustadio and 3 to Barich. I felt it was safe to conclude the HP being listed as high applied to both as well. I will concede that 18% evade is not high for the tactics game. I wish feather foot was 18%.

    Mustadio's page shows he isn't as defense oriented as Barich but he does have access to SoulBind.

    Also machinists Cid from FF4 and Edgar from FF6 are high Def and phys stat focused. However they both focus more on melee weapons, Cid could use Bows but the two-hand Hammer was his tool of choice. Both could use shields.

    With the gun models already in game being one handed could you see them using a shield in the off hand? Duel wield for DPS? What do you think if they go with the oft suggested Chemist to fill the healer role, Potion gun?

    Thanks for your feed back.
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