New Gun Class/job

[Parz3val]

Known Facts:

Both a new Tank & Healer with expansion.

No guaranteed 3rd class/job with expansion.

Gunner supposed to come sooner than later though not promised to come with expansion nor will it release beforehand.

Gunner known to incorporate magic somehow.

Theory 1: Gunner Job is Chemist (healer) releasing with expansion.

Theory 2: Gunner Job is Gun Mage (dps) releasing not long after expansion release.

[Einheri]

While I am not saying its going to be a tank, I think it could fit where he said not what people are expecting.

If you look at the Skills from tactics;
High Hp
Low Atk
High Evasion- 18%

Defense Boost
Arcane Defense
Arm Shot - Disable
Counter Tackle- Reactionary
Manashield- Damage to Mana instead of HP


Its got a good start for a tank-y type class.

The "gun"class has me the most excited. It has so many possibilities to fill any role based on previous incarnations in the FF series. DiPuS, Heals(support), and Tank. I look forward to what Yoshi and his crew do with it.

An observation if I may?- The gun models currently in the game are short barrel single handed weapons. Some times shown duel wielded but more often then not the NPCs only carry one. I am not picturing a long range sniper type class being implemented based on these models.

Someone please find me a Boondock Saints, 1 man 6 guns gif!

[JakzChurchill]

Seriously they did not say we would ONLY be getting a heals and tank during the expansion, just saying those two roles would be coming as an answer to the question of why they were only introducing a DPS before the expansion. So the gun class may not be either of those.

and I can't see it being a tank, as tanks have to stay in melee range at all times to complete their task. (don't try and argue this, it's the truth, this game was not designed to accomodate a ranged tank, and a ranged tank is something that the game has to have the mechanics set in place for from the get go) Which means giving them a ranged weapon is a complete waste of said weapon, when its bound to one class.

As a healer it could work, I'd love to see chemist with a mix ability that functions like Ninjas mudras. but then you'll have a gun... and never use it to complete your role so whats the point? With a healer youd actually be making it purely for aesthetics as opposed to mechanics, which is something SE really shouldn't do.

full circle we come back to DPS, I know theirs too many dps already but some weapons can only be done with dps, if you want to maximise the mechanics you can create. Aesthetics should never be chosen over creating an interesting class, because if the class isn't interesting to play; it doesn't matter how cool it looks, people won't play it. (an issue I currently have with Dragoon)

[Zantitrach]

SNIP

If you were using Mustadio as a tank, you were definitely using him wrong. He was a support character, through and through.

Seriously they did not say we would ONLY be getting a heals and tank during the expansion, just saying those two roles would be coming as an answer to the question of why they were only introducing a DPS before the expansion. So the gun class may not be either of those.

That would be a relief. I had no idea one way or the other, but there was someone else who said it was stated sooo. Yeah.

and I can't see it being a tank, as tanks have to stay in melee range at all times to complete their task.

Completely agree.

but then you'll have a gun... and never use it to complete your role so whats the point? With a healer youd actually be making it purely for aesthetics as opposed to mechanics, which is something SE really shouldn't do.

My SCH and its book and my WHM and its cane would have a word with you about never using their "weapons"......

full circle we come back to DPS,

If its truly not a guaranteed tank/heal class like that earlier guy said then I fully suspect it will be DPS class. Its just I was expressing myself that a tank it could not be.

[Parz3val]

Seriously they did not say we would ONLY be getting a heals and tank during the expansion...

Nobody has said that. If responding to my post, I merely said we weren't 'guaranteed' a third.

[Zantitrach]

Nobody has said that. If responding to my post, I merely said we weren't 'guaranteed' a third.

I believe you missed this post, someone did in fact say exactly that.

It has already been confirmed that we would get Ninja in 2.4 and then get a new tank and healer in the expansion, one of which would be the gun job.

Alberel states the gun job WILL be a tank or heal class.

[Cidel]

while musketeer has been mentioned many times it's also been in the same thought as, "...not like you expect."

Musketeer will be reserved for the first 200 people per server who can pay the Musketeer guild attendant 50 million gil. We will be providing 200 more certificates for a Musketeer class unlock in the next update. Please look forward to it.

Stop being lazy and farm gil so you can afford this class that's not meant for everyone to play.


Just because you don't like the way we're implementing this doesn't mean it's bad.

[TrystWildkey]

but housing was implemented just fine. so we will get a gun class that will be just fine

just because you don't like something doesn't make it actually bad.

Well, if we're going to be all nitpicky, I don't know if I like personal housing or not, simply because I can't even participate in it.

So, perhaps they'll implement a gun class in a similar way. First 160 people after patch to log in and open the job are the only ones that can get it until they slowly add more job openings.

Make sense? No? Hmm, but housing was done that way and apparently it's just fantabulous!

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Known Facts:......

Yeah, I wouldn't bet on any of those "known facts" seeing as how it was a "known fact" from Yoshi's own post that personal housing would be completely separate from FC housing, and naturally far more affordable.....

Yep, I'm disillusioned and bitter!

[Musashidon]

Make sense? No? Hmm, but housing was done that way and apparently it's just fantabulous!

so you want to use an extreme to make a point?

what does that do for you? oh pls that's like people saying they could do 3k fates and not get a atma and that makes it *bad*

or they can 100 t9's and not get a blm weapon and the drops rigged.

[TrystWildkey]

so you want to use an extreme to make a point?

what does that do for you? oh pls that's like people saying they could do 3k fates and not get a atma and that makes it *bad*

or they can 100 t9's and not get a blm weapon and the drops rigged.

RNG is RNG. I do always advocate for a token system in cases like that, especially with primal weapons, but not necessarily with regard to relic weapons. Relic weapons should take a long time.

RNG, is different from housing. Housing is absolutely NOT available. At all. To anyone who didn't grab a plot of land early. AND it will be pretty much the same situation when the next patch comes out. Because plots will (at least for the foreseeable future) be LIMITED.

If my example is an extreme, yet it's EXACTLY how housing was implemented, doesn't it then follow that the implementation of housing was in itself extreme? To introduce an element into the game that, no matter how hard or long you work, you won't be able to participate in?

It's even worse when gardening is also INACCESSIBLE due to a lack of housing plots for everyone.

How can you say that anything about the housing implementation is reasonable?