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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    RNG, is different from housing. Housing is absolutely NOT available. At all. To anyone who didn't grab a plot of land early. AND it will be pretty much the same situation when the next patch comes out. Because plots will (at least for the foreseeable future) be LIMITED.

    If my example is an extreme, yet it's EXACTLY how housing was implemented, doesn't it then follow that the implementation of housing was in itself extreme? To introduce an element into the game that, no matter how hard or long you work, you won't be able to participate in?

    It's even worse when gardening is also INACCESSIBLE due to a lack of housing plots for everyone.

    How can you say that anything about the housing implementation is reasonable?
    What you're essentially saying is that housing will be inaccessible forever.

    Camman. It'll only be inaccessible for the next 5 years, at best.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    How can you say that anything about the housing implementation is reasonable?
    rng is rng so everything is fine? this is my point

    you can say housing is inaccessible but for whom? we get a free inn anyone can join a fc with a fc house and get a room for 300k and you also want a personal house?

    the only thing inaccessible is gardening and that's because only so many people can use a garden.

    housing isn't inaccessible cause there is multiple ways you get to have your own room.

    the problem is you want it to be how you want it to be and it isn't

    so my question is how is it not reasonable? because not everyone can have a personal house?
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  3. #23
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    Personal housing is unreasonable for multiple reasons:

    -same as fc housing, so either you get 50+ of your friends to help you buy it, or for the SAME PRICE, you buy it all on your own.
    -same as fc housing, so you're competing against individuals and groups for the same plots.
    -gardening is walled off behind housing. Even if I had an FC house, I might not be high enough in the command structure to decide what goes in the garden.
    -Lastly: if ANY other game feature, dungeon, job, side-quest, drop, literally ANYTHING else was limited to ~200 players per server for the first few weeks, then STILL limited to a small percentage, it would be unreasonable. Why is it reasonable simply because it's housing?

    Or is it only reasonable because you're not interested in it??
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
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  4. #24
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    hey look we went full circle.

    welp this discussion is over.
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    I just don't get how a healer would be the gun class :/

    "HP is low, better shoot them in the face!"
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    hey look we went full circle.

    welp this discussion is over.
    Thought so, it's only reasonable because you're not interested in it.
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkylerStorm View Post
    I just don't get how a healer would be the gun class :/

    "HP is low, better shoot them in the face!"
    *snort*

    I couldn't even read that one out loud to my husband. I kept snorting and laughing.
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantitrach View Post
    If you were using Mustadio as a tank, you were definitely using him wrong. He was a support character, through and through.

    I was referring more to the abilities listed for Barich Fendsor. He has several defensive abilities you can see in the link with High HP and evasion. In my earlier post I quoted Yoshi from an interview saying he liked the Machinist from tactics. When I looked it up I found that there is a foundation for the class being a tank. I am not saying Mustardio ; ) was a tank in tactics or the gun class will be. Just sharing some thoughts on what I found related to what Yoshi said.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    Thought so, it's only reasonable because you're not interested in it.
    you know about assumptions it makes an ass out of you and me.

    no i won't argue because you have nothing to back up your case

    you use extremes which doesn't help anyone because if we based all our decisions on extremes we'd have nothing

    you say personal housing should be for everyone which once again doesn't make it bad

    and you say people who are against it are not interested when sure that could be right for some but others could just be fine with it because we are given alternatives.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkylerStorm View Post
    I just don't get how a healer would be the gun class :/

    "HP is low, better shoot them in the face!"


    You were saying?
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    Last edited by Duelle; 09-22-2014 at 08:50 AM. Reason: for clarity

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