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    dcdistro's Avatar
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    New Gun Class/job

    Several letters / months back it was all talk about a gunner class. All of a sudden the mention of the ninja class and they stopped talking about the gunner class that was going to be released.

    I thought there was a previous mention that it would be released with another job... my presumptions was with rogue/ninja. It just seems all information, hints or talk about this has suddenly ceased.
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    Fingowrath Finlly
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    From what i understand we are getting a whole slew of classes in the expansion.
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    From what I understand, back in the beginning of 2.0 Yoshi repeatedly mentioned the fact that Musketeer has been highly anticipated by the players.

    So, I expect that we will either never, ever see it, or the implementation of it will be worse than that of housing.

    Please, look forward to it!
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    From what I understand, back in the beginning of 2.0 Yoshi repeatedly mentioned the fact that Musketeer has been highly anticipated by the players.

    So, I expect that we will either never, ever see it, or the implementation of it will be worse than that of housing.

    Please, look forward to it!
    This is what I'm expecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    From what I understand, back in the beginning of 2.0 Yoshi repeatedly mentioned the fact that Musketeer has been highly anticipated by the players.
    He mentioned Musketeer because it was promised since 2010 and Thief (now Rogue) because it is a very classic FF class

    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    It has already been confirmed that we would get Ninja in 2.4 and then get a new tank and healer in the expansion, one of which would be the gun job.
    I hope the tank role.
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    Zantitrach Aergahrsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    He mentioned Musketeer because it was promised since 2010 and Thief (now Rogue) because it is a very classic FF class


    I hope the tank role.
    Definitely Heal role
    Chemist
    Orator

    OH YEAH

    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    There is already a "gun class guild" in the game. It shares the same building with the Marauder guild in the Coral Tower of Upper Limsa Lominsa. Has been there from 1.0 iirc.

    Inside you will find a gun toting guild leader and a bunch of npcs practicing with their guns in the main area and the target practice area of the basement.

    Also Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn the leader of the city state wields guns as well.

    E3 Interview-Machinist!
    MMORPG: What’s your favorite Final Fantasy class that is not in Final Fantasy XIV.

    Yoshi - P: I really like Cecil’s story from Final Fantasy IV, so the Dark Knight. From Final Fantasy Tactics, the Machinist.
    See while the Machinist uses guns, its neither a heal nor tank role (which apparently was confirmed, I had no idea?).

    I honestly don't see how a gun -tank class will work in general to be frank.
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    While I am not saying its going to be a tank, I think it could fit where he said not what people are expecting.

    If you look at the Skills from tactics;
    High Hp
    Low Atk
    High Evasion- 18%

    Defense Boost
    Arcane Defense
    Arm Shot - Disable
    Counter Tackle- Reactionary
    Manashield- Damage to Mana instead of HP


    Its got a good start for a tank-y type class.

    The "gun"class has me the most excited. It has so many possibilities to fill any role based on previous incarnations in the FF series. DiPuS, Heals(support), and Tank. I look forward to what Yoshi and his crew do with it.

    An observation if I may?- The gun models currently in the game are short barrel single handed weapons. Some times shown duel wielded but more often then not the NPCs only carry one. I am not picturing a long range sniper type class being implemented based on these models.

    Someone please find me a Boondock Saints, 1 man 6 guns gif!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
    SNIP
    If you were using Mustadio as a tank, you were definitely using him wrong. He was a support character, through and through.

    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    Seriously they did not say we would ONLY be getting a heals and tank during the expansion, just saying those two roles would be coming as an answer to the question of why they were only introducing a DPS before the expansion. So the gun class may not be either of those.
    That would be a relief. I had no idea one way or the other, but there was someone else who said it was stated sooo. Yeah.
    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    and I can't see it being a tank, as tanks have to stay in melee range at all times to complete their task.
    Completely agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    but then you'll have a gun... and never use it to complete your role so whats the point? With a healer youd actually be making it purely for aesthetics as opposed to mechanics, which is something SE really shouldn't do.
    My SCH and its book and my WHM and its cane would have a word with you about never using their "weapons"......
    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    full circle we come back to DPS,
    If its truly not a guaranteed tank/heal class like that earlier guy said then I fully suspect it will be DPS class. Its just I was expressing myself that a tank it could not be.
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    People source something they heard/read and stated as fact? Nah Wai! :/

    I was really hoping the gun class would be a healer and/or tank. With the seeming displeasure of the community at job splitting I dont see that happening. I can't find Yoshi saying there would only be two classes in the xpac one healer and one tank. He has said that there will be more classes added in the xpac a healer and tank among them.

    I would like to see a chemist healer like the one from tactics. Make strong potions and mixtures and throw them at your allies to heal them. The gun could be for damage and debuffs ala WHM earth and air spells and the "heal grenades" being tossed around healing and buffing. I would like to see it heal off tp and use med dex armor. One can dream. I don't actually expect this but yoshi said we wouldn't.

    I do not expect the class to be damage focused. For a class that has been lurking around from 1.0 being a dd or a dd with debuffs and buffs ala reverse bard/corsair seems to be too easy and the class would have been implemented already. Maybe a mid range, small cast time (got to load that blunderbuss), spike & aoe damage*SHRUG*?

    I linked a picture of the lominsa leader duel wielding in my previous post how ever she and the other npcs only carry a single pistol in game. The gun class guild icon shows crossed pistols but the marauder shows two crossed axes and gladiator two crossed swords. Seeing how nice the ninja animations are duel wield guns needs to be pretty flashy.

    What are you guys hoping to see out of the "gun class"? What kind of abilities and traits would you like to see?
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    Last edited by Einheri; 09-22-2014 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Einheri View Post
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    Well it is possible for Gun class to obtain the Chemist as the Healer Job if handled correctly such as using a Bullet Clip Mechanic for Gun class and its Jobs. A ideal for Chemist mechanic could be a chemical based bullets which release healing chemicals on impact when the Chemical bullet hits a player while the chemical bullets will perform a damage based effect if it hits a enemy. This would result in the Bullet clip mechanic turning the Gun class attacks into healing skills for Chemist path.

    The Bullet clip mechanic could serve as the Gun class stances. Allowing the Gun class to obtain Chemical bullets (aka Healing Bullets) to start out in early level if Gun class was to obtain a Healer Job and have a different DPS based Bullet clip for DPS to support its DPS Job path.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 09-22-2014 at 11:41 AM.

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