Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

[Elim]

Elim, when you say "only" new players are the bad ones in your first comment in this thread then try to hide behind "in my experience..." your fooling noone. (had to shorten this again, sorry).

Honestly, the only angry people I see in low level dungeons are the newbies themselves.

I didn't say that newbies are the only angry people and that vets can never be angry or any of the other stuff you guys seem to want to put into my posts. I said newbies are the only angry people I SEE in low level dungeons. You can keep saying that it's not possible, but it doesn't change the fact that it is my experience.

[Niwashi]

Are you supporting someone that accused the OP for being lazy because they weren't geared?

I think he was just correcting my statement that the Lodestone is based on what you wore when you logged out. (I tend to be on the forums and Lodestone during the day and play in the evenings, so I end up seeing my own characters showing what I wore when I logged out, as I would have been logged out last time the Lodestone updated.)

Why is that quote being appropriated to ispano? lol

That's Schneibel's post.

oops, yeah. Sorry about that. It's the forum that screwed it up, though. I used "Reply to Post" and that's how it came out.

[duvvvv]

@topic
I've had my ups and downs in the dungeons that's why most of the time I only run with my FC.
sometimes I just wish people would be honest and just say it directly if they're too tired to guide newbs (maybe they've been running the same dungeon for hours) or simply communicate what they'll do (whm saying I'll sleep other mobs, focus on one target at a time etc), instead of lashing out at the end or rage-quitting.

I'm pretty sure most newbs who ask for help can take criticism well, just be chill at least, no need to be rude. I'm lucky I got to join an active and very helpful FC while still a lowbie, but my first few PUGs made me avoid the DF like a plague for a long time.

[Snugglebutt]

I didn't say that newbies are the only angry people and that vets can never be angry or any of the other stuff you guys seem to want to put into my posts. I said newbies are the only angry people I SEE in low level dungeons. You can keep saying that it's not possible, but it doesn't change the fact that it is my experience.

What? Your making no sense since both mean the same thing...

You saying the only people/see is no different to saying the only people/in your experience which you later fell back on as an excuse. It's the same thing, your claiming the only rude and angry people you have seen/experienced while leveling from 1-50 in dungeons (multiplied by five times in your case on DoW/DoM classes) is the newbies/new players still in both cases. You cannot get out of it by trying to change a few words, especially when both your phrases mean the same thing. Your lying and everyone knows it.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I try to be as nice, and fun as possible. I'm never rude to people, unless they ask for it. I'll give you an example. Ran a lot of Frontlines over the weekend trying to get from Rank 38 to 40 (which I did accomplish). I've had numerous people that end up with me in groups over and over. One even told me he was excited to see my name in the party list, because everytime he gets in a group with me, he has a blast.

However, one of the battles, Maelstrom was losing. One person on another team took it upon themselves to start ranting and raving in alliance chat about how we were such "tards" and went on and on multiple times insulting the whole alliance. At first, I thought, ok I'll respond in a semi-joking way, and said "we couldn't have done it without you." He started mouthing off again.

Very next battle, I get stuck with this same person, this time in the same group. He ran off doing his own thing leaving the team (C which typically goes to Temple) one person short. When we got there, the enemy team had two full teams waiting. I typed in party chat something along the lines of, "there's too many of them, let's try something else."

Immediately I got a response from him. "Hey you're the tard from the last battle." So, twice instigating insults and name-calling over one battle (which we ended up winning the second battle). Really sad, but got me pretty furious at the same time.

People can be horribly rude and childish no matter if you're running Sastasha, SCOB or something meant purely for fun like Frontlines.

[Elim]

What? Your making no sense...

You saying the only people/see is no different to saying the only people/in your experience which you later fell back on as an excuse. It's the same thing, your claiming the only rude and angry people you have seen/experienced while leveling from 1-50 in dungeons (multiplied by five times in your case on DoW/DoM classes) is the newbies/new players still in both cases. You cannot get out of it by trying to change a few words, especially when both your phrases mean the same thing. Your lying and everyone knows it.

No...YOU'RE making no sense. lol. Seriously.

I said that that is my experience. Just because it's my experience doesn't mean it will be other peoples experience. It also does not mean that my experience is fake because you did not experience it.

I'm not dumb and think just because my experience is that newbies are mean that everyones experience will be the same as mine.

I shared my experience because I wanted to show the flip side of the coin. That newbies can be mean. Why is that a hard to understand?

[Snugglebutt]

No...YOU'RE making no sense. lol. Seriously.

I said that that is my experience. Just because it's my experience doesn't mean it will be other peoples experience. It also does not mean that my experience is fake because you did not experience it.

I shared my experience because I wanted to show the flip side of the coin. That newbies can be mean. Why is that a hard to understand?

Your a liar. That's plain to see even if you try to hide being 'in my experience' as there is no way in hell that you leveled from 1 to 50 multiplied by five dungeon character classes all to level 50 yet never once had a bad veteran player being rude or angry, you also did not say newbies could be mean, you was very specific in saying only the newbies are mean despite hiding behind 'in your experience' attempt at a get of jail free card which is not working. You did not want to show the flip side of the coin else you would of just said you have also come across rude new players not just veteran ones, instead you lied to deflect blame from veterans to new players by claiming only new players are the angry and rude ones of which using the in your experience card does not make a difference when you have leveled 1-50 five times on dungeon classes as it makes your lie as obvious as godzilla sitting in someones front garden playing the lute.

[MomomiMomi]

Your a liar. That's plain to see even if you try to hide being 'in my experience' as there is no way in hell that you leveled from 1 to 50 multiplied by five dungeon character classes all to level 50 yet never once had a bad veteran player being rude or angry, you also did not say newbies could be mean, you was very specific in saying only the newbies are mean despite hiding behind 'in your experience' attempt at a get of jail free card which is not working.

I've also not had that experience with veteran players being rude or angry. Don't know why you automatically assume it's a lie. Note: I'm specifically talking about in low level dungeons.

[Snugglebutt]

I've also not had that experience with veteran players being rude or angry. Don't know why you automatically assume it's a lie. Note: I'm specifically talking about in dungeons.

I don't believe you. Anyone who has leveled from 1-50 at least once has had at least one rude or angry player whom does not fit into the new player category of first class on first character, not unless they have never done any dungeons while leveling to 50 which by proxy means never completed the main story quest line or they have never ran a dungeon without anyone except FC members/friends.

[Elim]

Your a liar. That's plain to see even if you try to hide being 'in my experience' as there is no way in hell that you leveled from 1 to 50 multiplied by five dungeon character classes all to level 50 yet never once had a bad veteran player being rude or angry, you also did not say newbies could be mean, you was very specific in saying only the newbies are mean despite hiding behind 'in your experience' attempt at a get of jail free card which is not working.

Why do you think that I need to "lie". What would "lying" get me on a forum full of strangers that I don't care about?

You keep trying to twist and change my words, or you simply don't understand what I'm typing. Either way, I can see that you will keep doing that so there is honestly no point in this conversation. Oh well.