Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

[Snugglebutt]

Elim, I explained why your doing so in my opinion already, that you saw a thread pointing out the flaws of veteran players and somehow felt they were referring to you or all veteran players like when misogyny is brought up in discussions a lot of men become defensive even if not referring to them personally. Like in those types situations it seems you felt in this case the need to deflect it back on the new players by coming up with a lie when saw veteran players getting some blame for bad behavior...but you took that lie to far which made it blatant as far as myself and others have pointed out. If your going to make something up at least make it believable, like you comes across many or a lot, even mostly in your experience is more believable than only new players nonsense you claim.

[Viridiana]

Elim, I explained why your doing so in my opinion already, that you saw a thread pointing out the flaws of veteran players and somehow felt they were referring to you or all veteran players like when misogyny is brought up in discussions a lot of men become defensive even if not referring to them personally. Like in those types situations it seems you felt in this case the need to deflect it back on the new players by coming up with a lie when saw veteran players getting some blame for bad behavior...but you took that lie to far which made it blatant as far as myself and others have pointed out.

Wow. . .you have some serious issues with logic.

[Snugglebutt]

Wow. . .you have some serious issues with logic.

Not at all.

[Snugglebutt]

Not at all. when I say I think someone is lying is is related to how ridiculous their claim is. The more ridiculous the more likely it is a lie. There is no way anyone who leveled to 50 multiple times on DoW/DoM classes has never come across a single rude or angry veteran player and only come across rude or angry new players aka on their first class, first character unless they have never ran dungeons with any non-new players on all those multiple 1-50 classes or the only ones they ran dungeons with is their friends.

[Elim]

Not at all. when I say I think someone is lying is is related to how ridiculous their claim is. The more ridiculous the more likely it is a lie. There is no way anyone who leveled to 50 multiple times on DoW/DoM classes has never come across a single rude or angry veteran player and only come across rude or angry new players aka players on their first class on their first character unless they have never ran dungeons with any non-new players on all those multiple 1-50 classes or the only ones they ran dungeons with is their friends.

Just so ya know, to try to show you how wrong your assumption that everyones experience has to be the same as yours is flawed, a fair amount of people got all level 50's without touching a dungeon outside their story quest. Dungeons weren't cool when the game came out since FATE grinding gave a lot more experience. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the long time vets experiences are a lot different than yours.

[Snugglebutt]

Just so ya know, to try to show you how wrong your assumption that everyones experience has to be the same as yours is flawed, a fair amount of people got all level 50's without touching a dungeon outside their story quest. Dungeons weren't cool when the game came out since FATE grinding gave a lot more experience. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the long time vets experiences are a lot different than yours.

It does not make much difference, though I gave the example of leveling 1-50...that was my example but your claim is you have never met a angry or rude veteran player in dungeons, only rude or angry new players. The fact by saying only ever is the newbies in dungeons you have run it exceeds just the leveling 1-50 range into the post-storyline, post-level 50 gear, seals, materials, tomes and vanity item grinds/dungeon runs. Your claim extends into that realm too which makes it even more likely a lie.

[Elim]

It does not make much difference, though I gave the example of leveling 1-50...your claim is you have never met a angry or rude veteran player in dungeons, only rude or angry new players. The fact by saying only ever is the newbies in dungeons you have run it exceeds just the leveling 1-50 range into the post storyline, post-level 50 gear, seals, materials, tomes and vanity item grinds/dungeon runs. Your claim extends into that realm too which makes it even more likely a lie.

I said in low level dungeons. You seem to keep forgetting that this is what the conversation is about.

Show me where I said that I only experience rude newbies in lv 50 dungeons as well. Because I didn't. Anywhere. I may have vaguely said "dungeons" without adding "low level" to it, following my original post, but I thought you had the ability to follow my line of thought in that regards.

You can't enter a level 50 dungeon until you GET TO level 50. So levelling from 1-50 doesn't imply level 50 dungeons too, just FYI, in case that confused you somehow.

[Elim]

Wow. . .you have some serious issues with logic.

Well, to be fair, his first language may not be English which would explain a lot. I probably should have asked earlier in the conversation. I know what it's like since I have French as my secondary language. lol

[Alukah]

I'm still wondering if your checked the search info of those new players you found or just assumed based on their level. I'm not saying that it's impossible, but it's rather odd that someone completely new to the game would believe they know everything about their class without ever reaching 50 on any class

[Snugglebutt]

I'm still wondering if your checked the search info of those new players you found or just assumed based on their level. I'm not saying that it's impossible, but it's rather odd that someone completely new to the game would believe they know everything about their class without ever reaching 50 on any class

I think they are just making things up at this stage but it is possible they never checked or don't understand that a new player is someone on their first class, first character and not someone who just happens to be leveling a new class type on a preexisting high level alternative classed character.