It is a fact that it is mostly the older players, vets who are mean and rude in parties. Everyone knows this even amongst us older players we all know this except apparently you based on your original comment. Your not coming across as lazy, your coming across as misleading and applying misdirection trying to change that fact in favor of the older players despite the reality being contradictory of such a stance. None arguing with you claim there is no rude new players but in general they are a very rare exception and it is true that it is mostly older players who are the ones greifing, being abusive and rude in dungeon groups.