So votekick >abuse< is practically allowed?

[MeiUshu]

Adapt to what ?...there is no *adapt* in this game it is an open game. You ahve a given set of skills that is up to you to use, sometimes for the best, sometimes for the worst, until you learn to use them properly. Why should I use a Cure III (e.g), if I dont see the need of it? just because you want to ? and according to you it would be a reason (and is a reason) to kick someone..I am sorry...your wishes dont matter more then mines, which is what makes a group in theory, expelling someone because doesnt play the way you want him to play is the wrong motif and labelling said person of disrupting the game when is not the case or tagging him of harrassement are really things that shouldnt exist. Besides, if you dont agree with the play mode, nothign forbids you to leave, which is what an intelligent person would do...in my opinion and yes I, personally, do so.I, on your contrary, understand that others dont play like me and I dont play like them..and nothign forces me to play with or them with me, which the leave options exist for that reason...you expell who is not like you when in fact you can expell yourself yourself. The kick option is there for and extreme reason and not for everythign and anything depending on the mood of someone.Ah I forgot, that requries maturity..I agree not everybody is up to that level.

Mei

[ispano]

Adapt to what ?...there is no *adapt* in this game it is an open game. You ahve a given set of skills that is up to you to use, sometimes for the best, sometimes for the worst, until you learn to use them properly. Why should I use a Cure III (e.g), if I dont see the need of it? just because you want to ?..I am sorry...your wishes dont matter more then mines, which is what makes a group in theory, expelling someone because doesnt play the way you want him to play is the wrong motif and labelling said person of disrupting the game when is not the case or tagging him of harrassement are really things that shouldnt exist. Besides, if you dont agree with the play mode, nothign forbids you to leave, which is what an intelligent person would do...in my opinion and yes I, personally, do so.I, on your contrary, understand that others dont play like me and I dont play like them..and nothign forces me to play with or them with me, which the leave options exist for that reason...you expell who is not like you when in fact you can expell yourself yourself....Ah I forgot, that requries maturity..I agree not everybody is up to that level.

Mei

I've told you this before in other threads, but you refuse to listen to it. If a single player in an instance is holding the WHOLE group back and preventing them from progressing and they do not adapt after being asked or told some relevant information, THEY are the problem, period. People playing how they want, stops when you enter a group. That mindset, stops when you join that DF or PF.

And no, it's expelling them if they are holding the group back, regardless of how they play. Not because they play differently. Also, you're telling me, that THREE people should leave, because ONE person won't change? Sorry, that's not how it works.

Here's an example. Lost City, Boss 1. Healer gets eaten and the DPS cannot break them out quickly enough. That's a wipe You see that one DPS, say a Summoner in this case(taken from personal experience) is ONLY spamming Ruin. You ask him to step it up, use his other spells, or whatnot because he is holding the group back. The other DPS is minimally geared but seems to be trying based on the actions he is performing. You'd say LEAVE, when ONE person is holding back 3? No.

Because, guess what happens when EVERYONE in the group performs like that. Nothing ever gets done. These people need to teach themselves or learn or something, and if they refuse, they have no place in a group setting.

[SarcasmMisser]

I, on your contrary, understand that others dont play like me and I dont play like them..and nothign forces me to play with or them with me

When was the last time you even played this game. You are still in full darklight gear which is something I haven't seen in game since probably 2.2, your last achievement dates back to February, yet here you are still posting on the forums telling other people what they should do? If you are still posting on the official forums several months after you quit the game you are either a dedicated troll or have issues, and definitely have no sense of irony to talk about maturity. They should really require an active sub to post on the forums.

Sarcasm Misser