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    Sorry Yoshi, but if you award the best weapon in the game by winning the lottery...

    ...Then I have absolutely no interest in playing your game. Was a fun trip, but I think all good things come to an end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    I'm gonna clarify this once and for all. The reason why I'm so upset about this entire situation is because this completely breaks the reward structure in the game. Say whatever you want about "waaah you don't need the weapon to do the content", "it has random stats", "the chances of getting one for your job are so slim", etc. That doesn't change the fact that those weapons are currently the biggest carrot to get in the game and you get them by "winning the lottery". When you give the best reward by being extremely lucky with absolutely no ties to player skill (and the effort put into it is relative depending on said luck, if you got it on your 1st run or after 3 months) that tells me that the entire reward structure in the game is a joke and I shouldn't take it seriously anymore. Regardless of if it's a precedent for the future or not the reward structure IS ALREADY A JOKE, right now, this very minute. (By the way, for those who insist about the raid gear still making raiding worth it, there are jobs like NIN that may not use drops from A11S nor A12S at all now. That means only doing 9 and 10, where you can get carried in a corpse bag even on cross-server pf).

    After the release I stopped playing for a few days and waited for the PAX panel to see if there was any new development about it. Was hoping for Yoshi to say that they may be considering adjustments, or that this is part of a bigger plan with more stuff coming soon (like maybe ways to upgrade raid weapons/gear), etc. Instead his response was that everybody should "calm down" and that this is perfectly fine just because it's rare to get it. That response made me feel really insulted for the reasons I mentioned in the former paragraph.

    Now I gotta say, with a cooler head my reaction on my original post may have been overblown. As someone at some point in the thread mentioned there's still a lot more to the game and this is just a part of it. But then when I try to do anything I find that I lost a lot of motivation to put the effort.
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    Last edited by Sicno; 03-14-2017 at 05:06 AM.
    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

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    Yoshida says Anima is still the strongest weapon :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Yoshida says Anima is still the strongest weapon :^)
    TFW the head behind the entire game is totally clueless about how stats work.
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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    TFW the head behind the entire game is totally clueless about how stats work.
    We also base everything off of theory.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    TFW the head behind the entire game is totally clueless about how stats work.
    he just understands how balance works. whats stronger a weapon that you are guaranteed to get by doing a quest line or a weapon that you have a very small chance of getting from a practical standpoint. its not just about the numbers its about being able to practically obtain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    TFW the head behind the entire game is totally clueless about how stats work.
    you can put what ever stats you want on the anima so you can make it your bis if you really knew what you were doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    you can put what ever stats you want on the anima so you can make it your bis if you really knew what you were doing
    No. No you can't. Given the DPS increase on the i280s, it's almost as good as the i275 without substats at all. Then, given the i280s get about 100 more substat points then the i275s, even with a random shotgun approach almost every i280 is still going to be better then an anima, even with customized stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    No. No you can't. Given the DPS increase on the i280s, it's almost as good as the i275 without substats at all. Then, given the i280s get about 100 more substat points then the i275s, even with a random shotgun approach almost every i280 is still going to be better then an anima, even with customized stats.
    Why are you so upset that there's different ways to gear up? More options is always good no matter what.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    I'm not comparing lore nore msq, just content, gear and everything to keep people busy. Since it seems that it's all about content.
    Why complain about something now when it will later be replaced with something else and/or better? <- that's people currently logic. Follow it and you just don't play at all.

    OR you play the game because you enjoy growing stronger and stronger and getting better and better gear? Not to mention the story, lore, all the content... That's an option too, right?
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 03-14-2017 at 10:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Yoshida says Anima is still the strongest weapon :^)
    So that plus 3 damage is nothing? Oh my.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Yoshida says Anima is still the strongest weapon :^)
    Which shows how little he knows of his own game. It takes a *really* bad i280 to not beat your relic.

    And some of them beat the Alex savage weapons without a single secondary stat. Not even sure that can happen, but it's there.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 03-12-2017 at 05:58 AM.

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