So votekick >abuse< is practically allowed?

[Surian]

I reported plenty of people for a large assortiment of things.

From botters, to people who votekicked because we were after the same loot, people who harass you trough /trade spam abuse preventing you from getting anywhere to even people being total racists.

Not a single one ever got banned. They were all happily strolling around the next hour still, and the day after that, and the week after that, and even now. I dont even feel any of them got a stern talking-to or learned anything. GM's do not undertake any action whatsoever.

But they should! At the very least do more than give an automated response.

[Ellatrix]

I vote kick people for being bad in DF all the time, because they are preventing the party from fulfilling the objective. You aren't entitled to waste other people's time if they want you gone.

[Saigwa]

I was trying to tank T8 in the DF one time. I tried to do it the "Solo Tank" method, since that is how I learned it, with the OT as a dps / bomb checker. The healers got mad that I kept trying to grab the dredge, and when I didn't they got mad that I didn't grab the dredge.... wtf moment. Ended up getting kicked from the df, and then when I tried re-queueing for a NEW T8 run, I got the same group. Ended up getting kicked yet once again.

[CGMidlander]

I vote kick people for being bad in DF all the time, because they are preventing the party from fulfilling the objective. You aren't entitled to waste other people's time if they want you gone.

I generally try to give constructive criticism before resorting to that. But if an underperforming person responds with a snooty "You can't tell me what to do" attitude, then sometimes it can't really be helped.

[Razzle]

I'd take a vote-kick-with-abuse system over a no vote-kick system. And if you won't it just means you weren't playing endgame before the vote-kick was put in game.

People were joining AFK left and right and just leeching tomes off the rest of the party. And I'm not even talking about the actual trollings on chat

[Titor]

I see vote kick abuse happen in Frontlines so much, and it really irritates me.
If a player is not stuck like glue to their group and goes to assist another group (A melee from A or C goes to mid to LB node, a healer goes to help a group that is missing healers, etc) these people usually get votekicked right before the round ends (EVEN IF WE ARE WINNING!)
I /always/ vote no to these kicks, unless the player is clearly AFK or not playing at all. I really feel like a person separating from a group for a time to assist another that needs help, especially while our team is winning, is not means to be kicked.

I have not been kicked as of this thus far, but I see this happen to someone else in about every 1 out of 3 matches. It is extremely abusive since the teams usually kick in the last few minutes of the game.

[KaedrianLiang]

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So if nothing is picked up about the vote initiator's intention, in any of the chat logs. IE. Theyre a group thats on voip or face to face irl. They go unpunished. This promotes "Ingroup Fallacies" letting the most illogical of players get away with murder and the GM department enforces their illogical behavior by not doing anything about it.

[Elim]

I see vote kick abuse happen in Frontlines so much, and it really irritates me.

Funny, I've only seen vote kick used a handful of times in frontlines and every time it's been on OP AFKers. The ones who stand at OP all match, every match even if their team needs them badly. These AFKers are sort of like the AFK trolls from CM, but sadly they get away with AFKing more often than not because there's normally new people in the team who don't realize what they're doing. Granted, I haven't PvPed in awhile so this could have changed recently. Maybe your experience has stemmed from these OP afk trolls. People being paranoid or something...? Dunno.

Hmm...I knew a very infamous OP AFKer in the adders...I wonder if he's still at his old tricks.

[Kyri]

To LGM Enkrateia
First off I would like to say a very big thank you for following this thread and responding to concerns rather then locking it and leaving people feeling ignored. I do wish more GM and developers would do this. Though all answers might not be answered it shows that you are trying and listening so thank you, very much.

Secondly to keep from derailing much, I do hope that these things are looked at rather then dismissed because I was very sad to see my husband make a male alt to marry me and get kicked out of low lv 50 dungeons while working on his relic because they wanted him to have better gear to speed run, when he is indeed a great player, was pulling his weight and kicked only because they expected him to have better gear that had yet to be available to him at the time.

[Sensu]

I was kicked once for pointing out in a ST run that the other healer just stood there afking, and only moving with us to the new packs/boss. They (rest of the group) said I should stop whining and I could easily solo heal it. Yes, I know I can and I've been doing that so far, but when I said I wanted to kick him if he didn't start healing soon, I got kicked in response.

This was not against the rules, said the GM. Okayyyyyy....

Morale of the story is: vote kick them before they vote kick you, because it looks like no one cares or even reads what the kick is about anyway.