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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcano View Post
    I am aware of that, as i already had this conversation. with someone else, the problem is i'm not seeing it, maybe this is just a better game, then a 10+ year old MMO.
    You choose not to see it. It's kind of funny how when I ran Hullbreaker Isle in roulettes so many say: "so many memories of WoW flooding back" - So as much as you want to deny it..the guy behind this game made it perfectly clear. It's like trying to deny Everquest 2 is a sequel to Everquest..it's pretty apparent despite any differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You choose not to see it. It's kind of funny how when I ran Hullbreaker Isle in roulettes so many say: "so many memories of WoW flooding back" - So as much as you want to deny it..the guy behind this game made it perfectly clear. It's like trying to deny Everquest 2 is a sequel to Everquest..it's pretty apparent despite any differences.

    There is a difference between denial and actual observation, it's simply not there. YOU can deny that all you like, What's perfectly "clear" is that wow was an inspiration, he didn't say we want to make this exactly like wow" learn the difference, it's not denial or "choose" not to see, it's what common sense between the knowledge of the 2 games tells you. It's not there. regardless of how bad you want it to be.


    The way the direction is going right now, it isn't and will not be a better game.
    But since the game is pretty successful and shows no signs of declining, doesn't mean it's not a better game.

    When 10,000 people test a new food dish and 2,000 is saying its bad and not good while the other 8,000 are saying it's delicious, and it's fine as is, that means that majority will be fine with it. while the 2000 are simply ignored. That is just the way it is.

    We're all entitled to our own opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcano View Post
    There is a difference between denial and actual observation, it's simply not there. YOU can deny that all you like, What's perfectly "clear" is that wow was an inspiration, he didn't say we want to make this exactly like wow"
    He did actually - He said as clear as day he wanted to bring a WoW like experience to the Japanese gaming base as none of their MMOs are like it, so they haven't really played MMOs of that style as WoW has no official version in Japan. The guy reiterates that point pretty much everytime, if it was simply 'inspired' they would have done something different rather than stick to all of the same designs..don't you think?

    Perfect Example: Tera, it's clearly "the same ole same ole" post WoW era, but they at least tried something different with their battle system for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    He did actually - He said as clear as day he wanted to bring a WoW like experience to the Japanese gaming base as none of their MMOs are like it, so they haven't really played MMOs of that style as WoW has no official version in Japan. The guy reiterates that point pretty much everytime, if it was simply 'inspired' they would have done something different rather than stick to all of the same designs..don't you think?
    A "wow like experience" where is exactly does that mean an exact clone? I mean by that logic almost every other MMO and most RPGS are using the same design, If you like WoW, that is fine, but no, unless you can show me where he said "we want this to be an exact clone of wow" Which it is not, But we've already been through this, you are free to believe whatever you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcano View Post
    A "wow like experience" where is exactly does that mean an exact clone? I mean by that logic almost every other MMO and most RPGS are using the same design, If you like WoW, that is fine, but no, unless you can show me where he said "we want this to be an exact clone of wow" Which it is not, But we've already been through this, you are free to believe whatever you like.
    I mean... we can mince words about it... but when you want your product experience to be similar to another product- unless you are trying to get sued- you don't come out and say clone, even though you mean - .... artistic rendition (copy).

    FFXIV Could be a re-skinned WoW... except that WoW has more variety in content (raids, etc.)

    In fact... I wonder what would be lost if WoW was entirely reskinned to be FF.... would players that love FFXIV have problems with that game... or would they love it just as much or more than they love XIV?

    I wonder- since the design is so similar, how much of the appreciation for XIV and disdain for WoW is truly game based and how much is brand based?
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