NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Dijana]

I wonder how many people have read this

These agile fighters pride themselves on their skills with knives and daggers to make quick work of enemies.

Lurking in the shadows, adhering to no laws but their own, they punish the wicked, pilfering their ill-gotten gains and delivering them to the downtrodden masses. Thought by many to be mere common criminals, some would say they play an unseen hand in maintaining order in the buccaneer's haven of Limsa Lominsa.

^ From the lodestone.

This class is thief, with another name. There's no ifs or buts about it. It's thief. With a different name. Now that we've got that out of the way...

Yes, jobs don't have guilds. But rogue IS thief. The jobs are NOT the same thing as the class. They're similar but they are, lorewise, something different. Thief job would be the same thing as rogue, with the exception that they would probably be booted out of their rogue guild because there's a reason they're called ROGUE not THIEF.

Finally, no thief please. I hope they never add it now. I said previously maybe in a diff thread, I prefer the aesthetics of thief over ninja, but thief would add nothing special to gameplay and would be the same role as ninja. It will be a dps with 5 different dps abilities. I really would prefer they use it's 2nd job as something entirely different.

[Lemuria]

I guess that depends on how well you can read. People want a thief, not a rogue, and they damn sure don't want it to be a class. Do you really not see why asking for one of the most common FF jobs (With lore attached, AF, full 9 yards) that had several appearances as the protagonist's role isn't that far fetched? I mean, I know some people understand some topics better than others but I didn't think an explanation on why people want Thief in a FF game. It boggles the mind.

What boggles the mind more is how changing the name makes any difference to how the class plays. If we're being honest, our Black Mage is about as far removed from the Black mage's of old as can be and is pretty much Black mage in name alone. Sure they have nukes, but only if you count three measly elements and none of the supporting spells like Drain.

I'd sooner have a class which plays like a thief, looks like a thief and is called a Rogue than a class which plays nothing like either and is still named a Thief.

[LoLo]

I wonder how many people have read this


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Finally, no thief please. I hope they never add it now. I said previously maybe in a diff thread, I prefer the aesthetics of thief over ninja, but thief would add nothing special to gameplay and would be the same role as ninja. It will be a dps with 5 different dps abilities. I really would prefer they use it's 2nd job as something entirely different.

How does adding Thief as a job hurt your gameplay if there is a large following who want to play as a Thief job in this game? It is a MMO, and you are not the only one who paid to enjoy it.

[LoLo]

What boggles the mind more is how changing the name makes any difference to how the class plays. If we're being honest, our Black Mage is about as far removed from the Black mage's of old as can be and is pretty much Black mage in name alone. Sure they have nukes, but only if you count three measly elements and none of the supporting spells like Drain.

I'd sooner have a class which plays like a thief, looks like a thief and is called a Rogue than a class which plays nothing like either and is still named a Thief.

They want to play Thief as a Job. Not change the class name into Thief.

[Gilraen]

They want to play Thief as a Job. Not change the class name into Thief.

And the problem of Thief as a Job is that it'd likely be similar to Bard given Ninja is fulfilling the DD Job.

[Phen]

If its a class you will never be playing it anyway. You get to be honorable assassin being stoic and crap and doing naruto bs.

[Bigpurpleharness]

What boggles the mind more is how changing the name makes any difference to how the class plays. If we're being honest, our Black Mage is about as far removed from the Black mage's of old as can be and is pretty much Black mage in name alone. Sure they have nukes, but only if you count three measly elements and none of the supporting spells like Drain.

I'd sooner have a class which plays like a thief, looks like a thief and is called a Rogue than a class which plays nothing like either and is still named a Thief.

Except it's a class and will likely have no iconic Thief abilities. If we're arguing being in the same archtype let's go ahead and say Samurai shouldn't come since we have an eastern-style katana user, or dark knight since we already have a fighter archtype, etc. Most of us would rather play a *job* named Thief, with iconic Thief abilities, than a class named Rogue who uses daggers and is an agile-style fighter.

EDIT: Went and double checked to make sure that isn't remotely what people were asking. For real man, are you just reading one sentence then running the rest of the conversation in your head?

[Iriadysa]

Honestly, I don't see the point of classes in this game.

To me, it feels more like baggage from 1.0 than anything else, so saying they are adding Rogue and Ninja really feels like intentional misleading. In my view, they are adding Ninja and that's the end of it.

Until they add a second job that derives from "Rogue", Rogue is exactly the same as Ninja for any practical purposes.

[LoLo]

And the problem of Thief as a Job is that it'd likely be similar to Bard given Ninja is fulfilling the DD Job.

If people want to play Thief, is it harming anything? The same people who would play Thf are playing a DD job anyways? It doesn't matter how many DD jobs are out there, the people who want to play DD will flock to DD.

[Dijana]

How does adding Thief as a job hurt your gameplay if there is a large following who want to play as a Thief job in this game? It is a MMO, and you are not the only one who paid to enjoy it.

Because you're already getting thief with a different name. Adding jobs of different roles is more beneficial to everyone overall rather than overstuffing one role when you already have something that plays exactly as the job you already want. Its an MMO, and you are not the only one who paid to enjoy it.