NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Yamimarik]

Just heard from someone on my server that NIN would be sharing gear from DRG/MNK is this true? I'm having a hard time believing this was announced already, has it? if so where can I read/watch up on it. Thanks if anyone knows.

[Omegakiyohime]

Just heard from someone on my server that NIN would be sharing gear from DRG/MNK is this true? I'm having a hard time believing this was announced already, has it? if so where can I read/watch up on it. Thanks if anyone knows.

http://i.massively.joystiq.com/2014/...sses-and-more/

Massively just posted an article in which they asked Yoshi the question about Rog/NIN gear. His answer was "First off, because the class is going to be a melee DPS-type class, that gear that you have for other melee DPS classes and jobs is probably something that you'll want to hold on to."

So it seems like they will be sharing gear with either mnk or drg.

[Nalien]

So it seems like they will be sharing gear with either mnk or drg.

Can we just rule out Dragoon, seeing as Monk and Dragoon don't even share gear (ignoring accessories)?

I mean, if Ninja wears the Onion set instead of Fuma, someone at SE is a massive troll.

[Yamimarik]

http://i.massively.joystiq.com/2014/...sses-and-more/

Massively just posted an article in which they asked Yoshi the question about Rog/NIN gear. His answer was "First off, because the class is going to be a melee DPS-type class, that gear that you have for other melee DPS classes and jobs is probably something that you'll want to hold on to."

So it seems like they will be sharing gear with either mnk or drg.

Tyvm kind sir ^^

[Adrian74]

Just heard from someone on my server that NIN would be sharing gear from DRG/MNK is this true? I'm having a hard time believing this was announced already, has it? if so where can I read/watch up on it. Thanks if anyone knows.

I bet it would be either DRG, MONK or ... even BARD!!... Depending of how the class -job will be... (If relying in Dex or not...)

Tanks and healers already can share their soldiery gear... The same with casters.. Only ones that can't share a gear with others are Bard, Monk and Dragoon.



BTW... Didn't anyone notice something?.... Roghe/Thief, whatever, the class, appears in the video with its OWN costume... I don't recall any other classes having their own... It seems like if it would be their own AF.. (Like Ninja also appears with one)

It would be a little weird if they'd add just a gear for just a class and just for vanity purposes?... So maybe... There will be some job after all?.. Or maybe classes will have some utiity in 2.4 and their own gears.

[Adrian74]

But then it's that, the difference is only that one would be class and another one job... (And classes right now are useless)

[Erudain]

So it's the point I'm saying, Rogue could be played like a thief, it could have lv1-50 thief skills/trait, ninja could only give him 5 skills but you'd complain because the name plate shows you as "ninja" even if 85% of the skills and playstyle are thief/rogue skills...
Or does a Dragoon/White Mage/Bard playstyle differ a lot from their base class?

That to me means you're attached to the "name" the job has, not the playstyle......hence my previous example, if it plays like a geomancer, it has geomancer skills and traits, but they call it "Elementalist" people would complain because is not called geomancer even if it plays like a geomancer?

Off topic: let's say new player comes and joins the game, fresh start.....could he be a rogue -> ninja from the start? wouldn't that create a story paradox?.... Lady Yugiri doesn't get here until you clear the main story, how could she teach someone in his first 30s class who hasn't even cleared Titan yet?

[Nalien]

Off topic: let's say new player comes and joins the game, fresh start.....could he be a rogue -> ninja from the start? wouldn't that create a story paradox?.... Lady Yugiri doesn't get here until you clear the main story, how could she teach someone in his first 30s class who hasn't even cleared Titan yet?

Rouge wont be a starting Class, problem solved.

The Guild is only introduced at the end of 2.2 as well, so it's logical they wont allow it to be a starting Class. It's effectively an expansion Class/Job with 2.4 being the expansion; you cannot unlock it until you've entered that content. Other than Musketeer, which would finish Limsas starting trinity, I'd expect all new Classes/Jobs to be like that.

So don't tell me I'm not playing like a GLA even after lvl30.

If you're playing Gladiator after Lv30, please do provide some proof that you've... I don't know, cleared all the Coil Turns while on Gladiator without your Paladin Stone equipped.

I've had someone who hadn't bothered to unlock Paladin in a late end dungeon once, it was terrible. Without Shield Oath they couldn't even hold hate, so good luck with that.
(inb4 gets carried off tanking)

Take the green outfit shown in the trailer, mirage that to your all powerful gear, and look away from the NIN icon, and you'll be playing exactly like a Thief

Thief with hand signs and Ninjitsu, that jumps on the heads of enemies instead of, you know, being a Thief.

Again, why even bother adding Ninja? Get on Monk, Glamour Fuma gear over your endgame gear, done. Ninja is already in the game ! It's still doing DPS damage, just the animations are different ! Why do you care so much about the animation ?

[Reynhart]

If you're playing Gladiator after Lv30, please do provide some proof that you've... I don't know, cleared all the Coil Turns while on Gladiator without your Paladin Stone equipped.

So, although I play exactly the same with the same skills, as long as I have the soulstone equipped, the job is totally different ? Are you kidding me ?
It's pretty clear from your comment that you just want a name, and don't even bother on gameplay mechanics.

So I suppose if they gave a job that can steal, flee, hide, Sneak and Trick attack, as long as it's not named "Thief", you'd still complain...

Thief with hand signs and Ninjitsu, that jumps on the heads of enemies instead of, you know, being a Thief.

Blasphemy for all those THF/NIN back in FFXI, doing hand signs and Ninjutsu !
And yeah, jumping around is totally not Thief https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwLutErMlUI

But please, enlighten me, what is "being a Thief" ?

[KingOfAbyss]

It's still doing DPS damage, just the animations are different ! Why do you care so much about the animation ?[/I]

I play MMOs for the animations skills and actions, combined with the beautiful scenery. And making friends through chat and playing together.

Now, a MNK that needs to position himself, that needs to do combos.. vs NIN that Yoshi said won't need to be into a specific place.. Each have their own style, same thing as WAR and PLD are Tanks, or WHM and SCH are healers - different styles of achieving the same results (win) - one will appeal more than the other to some people.

For me, the style of play are bolded.

PLD - WAR
WHM - SCH
SMN - BLM (I love the flares only - my GF show me all these blasts so I'm ok with my future Levi, Ramuh and Shiva Egis )
MNK - DRG
BRD - ? (can't compare lol)

*I admit the glamours made me think of NIN on MNK lol perhaps used as a teaser? Can't wait to use these same gear on NIN muhahahaha

I would be very sad if Rogue (not the colour Rouge, hope it's a typo ^^) doesn't start at lvl 1.

I'm all in for new classes/jobs to be unlocked after completing the story, as long as they can start fresh, so we can have a little fun with 3 skills in Sastasha