
Originally Posted by
Kiroh
During Garuda's story, outside of their respective homelands, with only 3, average beastmen and zero crystals they were summoned full sized and full bodied.
Pay attention to the story before telling other people to pay attention to the story.
I thought that was covered with the Extreme Primals storyline? During the Garuda section of the story, the 3 beastmen of both tribes died summoning their Primal. Up to that point crystals and pray were the only means we knew of Primal summoning, with the Extreme storyline they explained that sacrifices work as well, did they not? Technically speaking, Crystals are just an easy source of Aether, literally just the crystallized form of it, so it's ideal for stocking and transporting for summonings. All creatures contain Aether too, so it stands to reason that sacrificial summonings would work on a similar principle, during that cutscene Garuda even commands them to surrender their Aether to her, so she could become more powerful (after we'd kicked her butt).
Pray is meant to give Primals form, that's something that even goes back to FFXI which actually had a similar lore behind summons. They were legends given form, Ozma was a legend that became forgotten and lost its form. Heck, there's even some FFX in there with the whole Pray thing... If you've done Turn 5, then it's also explained that;
The Allagan found a way to artificially recreate the pray used to sustain Bahamut, which allowed them to keep him captive and harness his power in Dalamud, long after his tribe vanished. That also explains what happened to Bahamut at the End of an Era trailer. Once he was free he was temporarily allowed to go on a rampage, but with no followers left, that didn't last. The ruins of Dalamud were able to maintain parts of him, now scattered across Eorzea. It's no wonder they cut to white there, it would have been pretty gruesome to show Bahamut literally being torn into pieces and spread across Eorzea with the remnants of his prison... The Allagan really were jerks...
So, I'd take it that praying alone can give a Primal form, but from there Aether is required to power them up. Again, the 3 followers during the Garuda cutscene sacrificed their own Aether and died to summon their Primals.
With Summoner we literally take the remnants of their Aether left on us after fighting them and meld it into an Egi. All the lore checks out in my opinion.