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  1. #41
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    Dat lore is why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    Dat lore is why.
    Who's fault is that though?
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gospel View Post
    And why not? You should be more respectful of the OP's plea. Or was this thread you made in the past for nothing?
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2124491

    If the OP wants to voice that the primals should be changed, then they can voice it. Who cares if they make the same themed thread in different sub sections of the forum. They're still following the guidelines and just want to be heard. I personally think the egis are fine as they are but I wouldn't be opposed to s/e changing their looks over time either.
    There's a difference between suggesting something and making 200 threads on the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Who's fault is that though?
    Same reason why male Miqote markings not being able to be removed was justified with lore instead of making them customizable, easier to write something quick for limitations than actually work towards fixing an issue, regardless if a couple don't see it as one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    There's a difference between suggesting something and making 200 threads on the same thing.
    Exactly, it's spam in the guise of a suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    I know Summoner's summon the Primals in the form of high spirits but why do they look like something that I would cook up and eat.
    Ifrit Egi - looks like a red chicken with horns
    Titan Egi - looks like chicken nuggets
    Garuda Egi - looks like a green duck.
    At the very least the Egis should resemble the Primals.
    Are the multiple threads you've spammed in the DPS section about this not enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Who's fault is that though?
    Well, the devs are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they had full blown primals, people would bitch that they weren't sticking to lore and that they are totally messing up the whole notion that a tonne of crystals and lives are needed to summon them. And since they decided to go the lore-friendly route, now people bitch that they aren't impressive enough (despite the fact that you're only summoning the ESSENCE of the primal, not the primal itself). There really is no way for them to win.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    There's a difference between suggesting something and making 200 threads on the same thing.
    I'd heavily suggest you take a look at your post history if that is going to be your response. What she is doing is no different then what you and many others have done in the past on these forums. Please be more courteous to your fellow forum posters in the future. Their opinions, suggestions and advise is just as valued as yours. If you don't have anything worthwhile to contribute, or if you're just fed up with their "spam" as you call it, then just /ignore them. Otherwise it's just harassment.
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    Last edited by Gospel; 06-09-2014 at 08:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Who's fault is that though?
    The fans, for wanting Summoner in the first place.

    Summons in XIV are going to be impressive, we knew of this long before Summoner was announced. Free Companies would battle the Primal, then be able to summon it in full force, similar to the cinematic summonings of old.

    But people wanted Summoner the Job, so the developers had to make a distinction between Summoner the Job, and Summoner the FC event. As a Job, it makes sense for the summons to be less powerful and less flashy, otherwise it's overpowered from a gameplay point and a aesthetics point. Summoner already is pretty overpowered in both regards anyway, and that'll only get worse with new Egis. The only other Job that comes close is Scholar, and even the Selene and Eos are both reskins of each other, rather than having unique models, not to mention they're both not really that flashy. Summoner gets a mini version of all the Primals finishing move.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-09-2014 at 08:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    Well, the devs are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they had full blown primals, people would bitch that they weren't sticking to lore and that they are totally messing up the whole notion that a tonne of crystals and lives are needed to summon them. And since they decided to go the lore-friendly route, now people bitch that they aren't impressive enough (despite the fact that you're only summoning the ESSENCE of the primal, not the primal itself). There really is no way for them to win.
    Actually it has zero basis in lore whatsoever.

    The premise of primals isn't that you need a ton of crystals and/or lives to summon them, it's that they're stronger the more of those things they have. We know this because in the main story quest both Ifrit and Titan are summoned by the cries of only 3 of their respective beast tribe members, none of which had any crystals in their possession that we know of. The only lore that exists to justify the egis is the lore they added specifically for summoner quests, in other words AFTER they decided to go the egi route.
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