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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Angel View Post
    This is more of what I've been seeking, and it reflects what I've observed so far in this thread. So, because people believe it will ruin the game it should not be attempted in the first place, no?
    I think it's more a path once taken, never taken back kind of thing. Even after CCP completely caved to the community the cashshop remained because they couldn't very well just turn around and hand out for minimal effort things people paid real money or extravagant ISK prices, as I did.

    It remains, kind of looming over the game, always threatening to be the thing the staff falls back on to make up for a drop in subs rather than trying to improve the game and make people come back. Far easier to sell a suit of armor or barding for $10 a pop than to spend months on new content for people to play.

    I don't think Squeenix would do that, not initially at least. They could have just salvaged FF14 1.0 into some smash and grab temporary MMO that was never designed to last but to generate as much money in the time it had. They instead chose to evaluate why the game failed and to fix those reasons, creating a game that stands completely on the fact that people want to keep playing so much they will part with $15 a month to do so. It shows the staff loves the game and respects the player base, but ultimately, it shows the people who control the money decided it was a sound investment. If they calculate that the better path to profit is to cater to the instant gratification crowd then that's where the game will go and that's what scares so many people.
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    Last edited by JatohCynn; 06-02-2014 at 05:17 PM.

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  3. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by JatohCynn View Post
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    Yes and yes. From what we have seen the [FFXIV:ARR] developers have a genuine love for the game and franchise, so if they are pressured by the company (SE) to find more ways to bring in revenue I believe that if they chose to expand their cash shop (the Mog Station) they would do it in a way that would cause the most minimal damage to the community.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeda View Post
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    You've offered no facts, only conjecture and any evidence you have shown has been inconclusive in it's ability to pinpoint the cause of failure.

    A cash shop architecture is already in place in the form of the Mog Station and elements are already floating around with the Digital Collector's upgrade as well as buying the Before Meteor soundtrack and ARR soundtrack (there are people that bought these specifically for the minion). To think this is the end of it would be almost naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Angel View Post
    A cash shop architecture is already in place in the form of the Mog Station and elements are already floating around with the Digital Collector's upgrade as well as buying the Before Meteor soundtrack and ARR soundtrack (there are people that bought these specifically for the minion). To think this is the end of it would be almost naive.
    As has already been said the entire point of the mog station was because back in 1.0 SE received alot of complaints about how confusing the game's billing page was. The mog station is nothing more than a remade billing page for the game. The digital collector's upgrade is just SE catching up with the times because basically every mmo has been adding a digital collector's upgrade for the past few years. The soundtrack minion doesn't mean a freaking thing, it's just a useless bonus people get for purchasing a piece of merchandise. If I remember right they even had something similar for FFXI years ago that gave special rings or something as a bonus and what do you know there STILL isn't a cash shop for the game. So once again there is currently zero evidence to believe we'll be getting a cash shop anytime soon. You're all looking for "signs" when there currently is no signs. This entire thread has been nothing more than a few people jumping the gun at things they "think" are signs of a upcoming cash shop.
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    all yall still arguing about cash shops, meanwhile i stopped doing that now im just sitting here waiting for fates to spawn so i can get atma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose_Vilehart View Post
    all yall still arguing about cash shops, meanwhile i stopped doing that now im just sitting here waiting for fates to spawn so i can get atma
    Was getting bored, I reply in the forums as a means to past time gotta keep the fire burning strong ya know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    *a man lays dying on the streets, just before he took his last breath, a pigeon defecated on him and he died, therefore pigeon shit kills.
    Bad analogy. There are so many zoonotic diseases that are spread that way. The bullet may have killed your hypothetical victim but the feces could easily pass on diseases that kill the first responders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    Bad analogy. There are so many zoonotic diseases that are spread that way. The bullet may have killed your hypothetical victim but the feces could easily pass on diseases that kill the first responders.
    not really an analogy, wasn't even trying for an analogy, metaphorical and as a figure of speech perhaps but certainly not as an analogy.

    well of course, pigeon shit is the source of all deaths, the question now is which is deadlier, a pigeon's shit or an unladen swallow's at 24 miles an hour.
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    What the hell is even going on in this thread anymore?
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    Are we talking about poetry with the analogy and metaphor and figurative speech?
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodclaw View Post
    I would like to start a discussion of suggestions for acceptable (not P2W) items.... I just want to help steer it in a good direction.
    I think it was a terrible idea, why not make all the "suggested" item available in game?!
    If it is not P2W, then pay for what? Why make something could be available in game to be sold seperately?

    If this happens, all coming "items, effects, and services" would be moved to the shop predictably. ^^;
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