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  1. #211
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    Malamasala's Avatar
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    Lalah Elakha
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    As someone who kept track of the TERA forums, I know a bit more of the details.

    BHS was completely ignoring the localization teams, and where just making the game the way they wanted it. They removed the enchantment (upgrade gear) selling NPC from the game to force their Korean players to use the cash shop. This had the direct effect that the localizations also got their enchantment source removed. EME had big troubles trying to figure out how to solve it. They were stuck handing it out at home-made events and the default low drop rate from raids (that was still in the game). Just before going F2P they actually moved those enchantment items into the cash shop, which was probably the killing blow for people to leave. In the EU version it was even worse though, because they listened and did not add it to cash shop. Which meant in EU you had to grind SLOWLY entire weeks and months to upgrade your gear. Plenty of people cried out on the forums that this was so boring and slow they wanted cash shops with the enchantment items.

    BHS latest move of removing the old vanity system in favor of the new one is also interesting because it ties in with our glamour. They started adding "multi slot pieces" and ran into the issue that free slot vanity + multi slot pieces = a mess. If you have a head + body piece, and vanity only head, what should happen? So they scrapped the old vanity system and went with the "FF14" solution of making sure all vanity is of the same size. In this case, all vanity is full body. (Actually this is worse than FF14 system, but at least not as complicated)

    So now we have TERA and FF14 showing us that there is no dumber armor design, than multi slot armors. Hopefully post 2015 we'll never see a MMO with that system again.
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  2. #212
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    Lumidus's Avatar
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    Lumina Saita
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    Sargatanas
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    My main gripe about tera was when they sold all the mounts and weapon skins. For ffxiv, im sure they will make a killing on minions. Lots of people upgrade to collectors edition for the little bonuses.
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  3. #213
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    Shadex De'marr
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    Absolutely nothing. We pay a subscription for a reason. Devs should never ever put anything in a cash shop in a sub game with the rare exception that it be 100% attainable without paying and offer zero game benefit beyond visuals.
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  4. #214
    Player Rose_Vilehart's Avatar
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    Rose Vilehart
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadex View Post
    Absolutely nothing. We pay a subscription for a reason. Devs should never ever put anything in a cash shop in a sub game with the rare exception that it be 100% attainable without paying and offer zero game benefit beyond visuals.
    THIS so much this!
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  5. #215
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    Kruxy Tayuun
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    FF14 shouldn't need a cash shop

    1) We get vanity outfits for our subscriptions and earn the sets by running dungeons, the only reason I can find for people wanting this is because they don't want to farm the same few dungeons for a specific piece of the set they want to just glamour what they are wearing and forget about it.

    2) To the person wanting an EXP booster. We already have a boosted EXP buff called "rested EXP" from just logging out in a sanctuary area, with this and the helm of light from the collectors edition I cant see a need for another EXP booster to be available for purchase.


    The only things that should be available in the mogstation imo is the ability to change your name ONE time (cause sometimes you have one person that messed up on their character name or gets bored with their name, etc.), server changes, and fantasia. Retainers are kinda toeing the line already.
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  6. #216
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    Of course you don't NEED exp boosters. That is why it is acceptable in a cash shop, because it would be an optional service nobody is forced to use.

    If for some reason you get really tired of leveling, but want to reach the cap, you could pay money for speeding it up.
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  7. #217
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    Lughna Ravensworn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    Of course you don't NEED exp boosters. That is why it is acceptable in a cash shop, because it would be an optional service nobody is forced to use.

    If for some reason you get really tired of leveling, but want to reach the cap, you could pay money for speeding it up.
    The expansion after such a feature is added, the level cap will go up and they'll raise the xp/per level formula by a factor of 100 and lower the xp per quest and kill by a factor of 10. It's happened to every game I've played that has started to offer such things. The accountants get control and it happens every single time. That's why there is no such thing as a good cash shop.
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  8. #218
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    Aeron Grim
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    All these people want to spend real money on vanity and mounts...

    Everyone is already riding unicorns, behemoths, giant robots, lions, tigers and bears (oh my). The easiest way to look different in ffxiv is by riding a chocobo, which is pretty sad.
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  9. #219
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    Jatoh Cynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cid_Grim View Post
    All these people want to spend real money on vanity and mounts...

    Everyone is already riding unicorns, behemoths, giant robots, lions, tigers and bears (oh my). The easiest way to look different in ffxiv is by riding a chocobo, which is pretty sad.
    A nude chocobo no less.
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    Pyro Frost
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cid_Grim View Post
    The easiest way to look different in ffxiv is by riding a chocobo, which is pretty sad.
    #thread

    /10char
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