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    Lol Tanks and Healers are always told how much they suck when they are not up to par and everyone can tell but Heaven forbid a DPS is told they are bad because that is just wrong.

    Its like that old Joke how a Fat Whale can call a thin Women any bad thing she wants but if that thin women calls that Whale Fat its the end of the world its a freaking joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by TestSubject09 View Post
    people don't like being told that they are under performing?
    Telling people that they are under performing is a huge "under"statement.

    Where do elitist draw the line?

    If someone's Max DPS with BiS gear is 700 do you complain when someone else can't do that 700? If you consider them lenient where do you think they draw the line 699? 690? 650? 500? 300? Be honest.

    Since as far as I can tell some people go bonkers when they see ilvl60-80 on the expert dungeons. I've even some players literally losing their sanity in a DF/PF Brayflox HM when it takes 20-30 seconds more than their average high ilvl group of friends they usally SR with.

    That's the reason why "muh dps meter" mentality is a huge demerit. So since going to extremes is the only way to get a point across I'll say this elitist with parsers have this mentality. "He did 5 dps less than average? He should literally be raided by every known agency and locked for life." All for wasting everyone's time because of 5DPS.

    The majority of people with meters aren't lenient they use it to gloat and insult other players on average. Especially when those same people wont give "avoided" and "buffed/supported" the time of day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Snip.
    Yet im sure your the first to kick out a tank or healer who "aint doing there job" and making you wipe
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    Quote Originally Posted by TestSubject09 View Post
    And now we have to tip-toe around a FULL damage metre because people don't like being told that they are under performing? it boggles my mind.... how sensitive people are, no wonder the majority of loud mouths in duty finder think they are great when in reality they are far from it.... no evidence to put people in their places.
    I think it's about HOW we're being told. Saying something like, "pop your offensive cds" is better than saying "dude, you suck as dps". This kills morale. That person may leave, now you have more downtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    with the plague of elitists in this game I can see why the scale goes to the bad side.
    Seems more like a plague of carebears to be honest.

    If I was under performing I'd want to know about it, so that I could try and improve, not have it hidden from me in case it hurts my feelings lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceVirgin View Post
    Yet im sure your the first to kick out a tank or healer who "aint doing there job" and making you wipe
    Only thing I have 0 tolerance for is jerks not bad players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post

    Where do elitist draw the line?

    If someone's Max DPS with BiS gear is 700 do you complain when someone else can't do that 700? If you consider them lenient where do you think they draw the line 699? 690? 650? 500? 300? Be honest.

    Since as far as I can tell some people go bonkers when they see ilvl60-80 on the expert dungeons. I've even some players literally losing their sanity in a DF/PF Brayflox HM when it takes 20-30 seconds more than their average high ilvl group of friends they usally SR with.

    That's the reason why "muh dps meter" mentality is a huge demerit. So since going to extremes is the only way to get a point across I'll say this elitist with parsers have this mentality. "He did 5 dps less than average? He should literally be raided by every known agency and locked for life." All for wasting everyone's time because of 5DPS.

    The majority of people with meters aren't lenient they use it to gloat and insult other players on average. Especially when those same people wont give "avoided" and "buffed/supported" the time of day.
    Is that what happen in NA region?
    I don't think they will be overboard that much. when you said different of 5 DPS make people rage, it can already tell that you never actually checking parse and assume all this.

    Anybody check them will know that each runs with a different of 10 dps is normal thing. at the level when you could do above 400 dps, then you could have variance range of 20 dps sometimes, so I don't think people will care just 5 dps different.

    I will tell you thought, when people complain, it is something like this.
    Monk #1 420 dps.
    Monk #2 200 dps.

    Something that is below half of another players. and I wonder if it is so bad to let that guy realize?
    (P.S. it is common to see one person in party doing below half of other too btw, and most people couldn't detect the person and would just play until the guy was pulled up so that he can do bad on next party.)

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    Last edited by Alise; 05-26-2014 at 10:18 AM.

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    I think having a parser on dummies would help a lot. People can practice their rotation and better themselves. If the can bring that muscle memory for their rotation into fights, that would be a huge improvement. If the party finders ask for insane numbers are best of the best, let them wait. ATM there are lots of party finders asking to link weapon. I think this will be a better criteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Seems more like a plague of carebears to be honest.

    If I was under performing I'd want to know about it, so that I could try and improve, not have it hidden from me in case it hurts my feelings lol.
    If you enjoy being insulted then good for you.

    With this playerbase, a tool like that would hardly be used for constructive criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    If you enjoy being insulted then good for you.

    With this playerbase, a tool like that would hardly be used for constructive criticism.
    I'm honestly at a loss for what kind of player base wouldn't have people reacting negatively if they knew people were under performing by a large degree.
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