Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[Gormogon]

What could S-Enix possibly implement, that fits that criteria that isn't a raid though? 5 New primal fights like Titan Ex but tuned for i90-100 players would be the closest thing I could think of.

Leviathan drops an ilvl 95 weapon that can be upgraded to ilvl100. Thornmarch extreme drop ilvl100 accessories.

At the start farming the relic weapons first took priority over farming philo for DL so that you can do primal and coil.

In patch 2.1 we had myth farming, CT, Primals, Ultima's Ballad, Weekly quests, Primal Focus, that gave us Rowena tokens rewarding ilvl 90 weapons that were in some cases way better than relic, etc.

Most of which isn't a luxury in 2.2 because that's a lot of content to implement.

They can easily spread gear coil efficient gear through content.

Beastmen dailies offering 1 armor piece for completing depending on their lore, etc. Sahagin could've given a necklace, Kobolds could've given a helm or chest piece.
Primals can start dropping more than just weapons, rings, and necklaces.
Soldiery could've been slightly more rewarding stat wise, with so many pieces not helping with accuracy you're left on average with 2-3 pieces worth owning for coil.
Sand/Oil could have been placed else where.

It would've probably also helped a lot of players if Novus wasn't delayed, That stat customization sounds like it would be real helpful with the accuracy requirements.

In 2.3 CT2 may be a help to downing SCoB and so on.

There's alternatives the thing is that the balance isn't well rounded.

So in other words as a BLM if I cared for the stressful coil environment. Lets just assume I was in a group that could down T6 but not T7 this would've have been my alternative progression as well as others in my party. Current progression route is.

Animus/Novus
2-3 pieces of soldiery
Thornmarch necklace
1-3 pieces from T6 (On average just nulls having to work on soldiery and thornmarch)

Which is on average a 4 piece upgrade.

Yet with alternatives it would mean that overtime we would have a reliable set to do coil for coil gear. Instead of having to figure out weather or not pieces from soldiery are worth the time investment or not.

[OmniEx]

For everyone arguing that people only wanted more options to coil and not handouts. May I present this post.

They can easily spread gear coil efficient gear through content.

Beastmen dailies offering 1 armor piece for completing depending on their lore, etc. Sahagin could've given a necklace, Kobolds could've given a helm or chest piece.

So if i'm reading this correctly someone just thought it would be a great idea to have beastmen dailies reward Coil level gear. If that's not asking for handouts I don't know what is.

[Gormogon]

So if i'm reading this correctly

I said "reliable set to do coil for coil gear", so no you did not read it correctly.

[OmniEx]

I said "reliable set to do coil for coil gear", so no you did not read it correctly.

Uhhh you can get a full i100 set before ever setting into coil. My main is i94 and im on t8 and I'm sure people who are clearing t9 are not much higher than i100 either. So what the hell are you talking about "reliable set to do coil" i90 is more than reliable enough to start doing SCoB and if thats not good enough you can have i100 pieces or an entire set on top of that as well? Do you even think about what you try to argue before posting it?

[Gormogon]

Uhhh you can get a full i100 set before ever setting into coil.

ilvl doesn't mean anything if you don't meet the accuracy requirement. I'm ilvl 96 sure as hell not gonna be doing T6 with 395 accuracy and 2 pieces that can increase my accuracy by a total of 29 isn't gonna magically make it better. This gear I'm building is just for dungeons and vanity and nothing else, now I can myth farm without having to care about the other dps spot pulling his/her weight.

So unless there's some magical formula that allows players to get ilvl100 with a reliable set of gear that gives them the proper distribution of gear you don't have a reliable set of gear you have pieces of loot scatters all over the place that give small boosts to your overall stats. Especially when that progression itself takes weeks upon weeks to achieve.

Yet the concept flies right by you and for obvious reasons as well.

God forbid we have a balanced form of progression / instead of the constant flatline - that can only be fixed via echo.

[OmniEx]

@ Gomorgon, my god man. There are 3 i90 sets (Myth/Allagan/Crafted+materia) plus i100 soldiery. There's already plenty of options there to make an entry level set of "reliable gear" for second coil. You can easily make a set by mixing those 4 sets and still be going into coil with ilvl95 and meeting the accuracy requirements.

[Gormogon]

There's already plenty of options.

So only your side of the fence works, typical.

[OmniEx]

So only your side of the fence works, typical.

You're a BLM right? T6 accuracy cap is 450. If you buy every piece of whethered gear except the choker and use that full set with the moogle choker and the normal Allagan rings for one of your rings. Use either the animus/upgraded Levi weapon and eat the right food. You'll have an ilvl99 set with 457 accuracy. That took me 2mins to plan... There's your "reliable gear set". Anymore stupid complaints?

[Menriq]

Not getting into a personal attack, because I think there are valid arguments on both sides. If you want something of equal difficulty, are you simply looking for more variety in that there are multiple raid instances, and the gear is spread out between them? Next question I have as well. What are your thoughts about having the current Coil toned down, but a new hard or extreme version that drops better gear? So basically, you would need to go through the toned down version to gear up to then attempt the new harder version? Would that alleviate some of the gearing concern?

[Gormogon]

That took me 2mins to plan

Go farm it then, tell me it took you 2 minutes to get. Seems all you can do is throw insults and complaints when an argument doesn't go you way.

I've already mentioned that I have T6 gear and that I simply just choose to not raid because it is anything but fun in it's current state.

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1.) What we are looking for is a progressional route that's progressive such as this line / and not the current form that is - where only the 5% get to experience it.
2.) Not really. If you see how progression is being currently handled, CT is a step backwards from Coil. Yet that's a backwards step \ so you can move forward /. Instead CT should be released before Coil or allow other forms to progress / that aren't as stressful as coil that lead up to doing coil in a less stressful manor when it comes to dealing with phase transitions and mechanics overall. Yet doesn't take 2 months to release it should be part of that Coil patch.