Best Gear in Coil needs to end

[Ooshima]

What ever you say, obviously your word is law.

Nah. When what you're saying is different from most of others (who are generally in sync), your word is obviously the law.

You guys better listen to this man, he's an ex pro gamer.

[Gormogon]

Now that we've settled that you can continue to complain about how coil is too unforgiving and uses too many "zero-tolerance mechanics". But hey if you don't like your end-game top tier content to be hard I hear Hello Kitty Adventure Island has a very forgiving endgame scene maybe you'll like to play that instead?

Hand you the argument so you can move on. You choose to insult and complain, typical.

[OmniEx]

Hand you the argument so you can move on. You choose to insult and complain, typical.

Funny seeing that most of the complaining is coming from you.

[Awrini]

So, this thread still going, and Gormogon still whining. Nothing has changed I see.

[Menriq]

To many having the best gear and challenging the end-game content means that it's no longer gear that's gonna be the reason that a group of people will be able to kill it but skill.

A lot of people still would but then again, you'll just try and justify yourself by trying to say it's not a challenge because there's no gear. Which if funny because there's people still doing old content that's not relevant anymore.

I'm having a hard time understanding what you are saying with this. The best gear before SCoB was from Myth / Coil. The groups that have cleared SCoB went into that with the "best" gear available to them at the time, just like they cleared the first coil with the "best" gear available to them at that time (crafted / Darklight). If you can get the best gear before you step into SCoB, what would be the benefit to even doing SCoB if there was no reward? The current reward is that you get the best gear in the game. I can't speak for everyone, but the only reason I do old content (old coil, primal EX, etc.) is to help FC. It serves absolutely no purpose for me to do it. When the new CT comes out, I will probably do it to again help FC members, but I'll more than likely be gearing alts up via other routes.

No what this game lacks is slowly transitioning it's player base into understanding standard raid mechanics outside of tank n spank since tank n spank is usually what you do 90% of the time with most dungeon bosses in FFXIV besides some unique ones.

I've been in many MMO's that have a balanced gear progression that stems well outside of just raiding so that you can raid more reliably. Yet just like everyone else you seem to assume that I or anyone else is asking for the same equivalent ilvl gear from Coil.

I ain't asking for a ilvl110 set outside of Second Coil of Bahamut yet "gear sets" that help down bosses. Ilvl100 Gear with poison resist to ease turn 6's and balanced stats for raiding that don't force players out of their accuracy requirements and aren't lacking with their secondary stats either. Yet keep assuming I want ilvl100 gear with 1M of every stat so I can go into coil and 1HKO everything on sight.

This is yet a different argument. The argument again is the "BEST" gear coming from Coil. What you are arguing here is completely different, just like your argument about the mechanics. You could have your iLvl100 gear with poison resist, and still get 1 shot by blight. You could have your 110, and if you don't block the "eating" mechanic, the boss is going to gain too many stacks for you to overcome.

[Kaze3434]

came into this expecting it to come to "this is how it should be" and snowflake comments, and was not disapointed. i myself feel it was somewhat stupid to lock both gear progressions behind one thing. the only thing i see wrong with the "let me do something besides coil to get gear comparable to high allagan" is that there is nothing as hard as Coil2 right now. I recently started SCoB, mainly because i am somewhat unable to play with anyone i know could down T5(job reasons). i still put tons of practice into it to learn by exp and not just video, and eventually got it down. next thing is getting a group together that can work on T6+. do i expect to get done with it before 2.3? no, but im not going to complain about other people who were able to get the best gear before me because they started working on something before i could.im going to try and do the same thing they did before i was able to; beat hard content. yes coil should have the "best" gear, but no, all forms of progression should not be behind it. this may be "fixed" when CT2 is out, but if it isnt, it wont be the end of the world. it will just mean CT2 will have no meaning besides glamour, and tomes maybe.

TLDR;there isnt anything really wrong with the system. get people together and do the content, or not. its your choice.

[Xatsh]

Nothing is wrong with the current content, there just is no where near enough of it that is the problem.

This patch has coil and levi as relevant content. Everything else is vanity gear.

I feel most people are just wanting more to do besides 1 raid (if you can even call it that) and 1 primal to get gear that is meaningful at the time.

If you can beat turn 6-9... you are done with the whole weeks worth of true endgame content in 4-5hrs.

[Gormogon]

You could have your iLvl100 gear with poison resist, and still get 1 shot by blight

Well with that narrow minded way of thinking you'll never understand. Just don't bother this isn't your forte.

[mythicrose]

If you can beat turn 6-9... you are done with the whole weeks worth of true endgame content in 4-5hrs.

Much less than that if you can one shot it all. Turns 6 - 8 can all be done within an hour. Turn 9...well...I'm still working on that one. However, once my group has it on farm status, I'm sure we can clear all of Coil 2 within an hour and a half or less.

[Awrini]

Pot meet kettle.

Well with that narrow minded way of thinking you'll never understand. Just don't bother this isn't your forte.

Just what I expected from you. Accuse others of you own shortcomings in order to try and deflect the fact of how irrational a person you are. I almost feel sorry for you.